In our area, UPS at least was been hiring individuals with their own
private vehicles to deliver packages.  These individuals apparently are
fairly clueless.

In at least two cases the individuals marked business not open at almost
the same exact time that our normal driver was picking up our daily
pickup.  Our driver was less than amused when he saw these.

I think they've stopped doing this at least in my neighborhood but if
they're doing good elsewhere that could explain it.

On the other hand, FedEX can't be explained.   No matter how dry the roads
are,  if they didn't deliver a package, it's a weather delay.

On Thu, Mar 23, 2023, 3:10 PM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]> wrote:

> I usually get a tracking notice and a "out for delivery" notice.  Lately I
> have gotten the "out for delivery" notice both USPS and UPS only to watch
> on camera the damn truck just cruise on by.  We're rural on a dead-end
> road.  The only USPS or UPS vehicle on our route would be what just drove
> by.  These jokers don't even slow down.  It's close enough that they could
> stop and honk the horn and I could come out and get it.  So it's wait till
> tomorrow, if it don't show then, I file for a replacement for an
> undelivered item.
> On 3/22/23 14:43, TJ Trout wrote:
>
>
>
> I also avoid using debit or ach and only use credit that way if a breach
> occurs it's not my money tied up until it's resolved.
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 2:41 PM TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Why pay with a bank account when you can get a 3-5% "discount" for paying
>> with a credit card?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 12:49 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm pretty skeptical when a bank tells me they don't see the
>>> transactions attempting the account.  It's only happened a few times but it
>>> always seems to be a second or third call with the customer to get it
>>> resolved and all we do is complain it's still not working...
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 2:51 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We are switching over to a debit/atm card to pay since they canceled
>>>> every order since the 18th that was direct bank account draw.  The bank
>>>> does not even see them attempting to hit the account.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Chuck McCown
>>>>
>>>> McCown Technology Corporation
>>>> 8401 N Commerce Dr
>>>> Lake Point, Utah 84074
>>>> 801-250-9503 Office
>>>> 435-830-4306 Cell
>>>> www.mccowntech.com
>>>> www.microtrench.pro
>>>> www.terabitnetworks.com
>>>>
>>>> *From:* James Howard
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:13 AM
>>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Amazon weirdness
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FedEx is a joke.   When they get around to delivering (rarely when they
>>>> say it will arrive) many of the packages are damaged.  Sam’s club ships
>>>> everything via FedEx and they throw the boxes out the door of the truck and
>>>> drive away.  Have had glass items smashed in multiple deliveries by FedEx.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lately though, it seems that everything from Amazon has been coming via
>>>> USPS here.  In the past, we have had an many as 4 Amazon trucks deliver on
>>>> the same day so maybe they’re reworking their system to have some
>>>> efficiency?  I’ve seen 2 Amazon trucks following each other down rural
>>>> roads around here many times.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> UPS has been my preferred delivery until recently.  They seem to be
>>>> developing FedEx type of traits recently with damaged packages and things
>>>> coming late but hopefully that’s something that won’t continue.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2023 9:31 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Amazon weirdness
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you guys get delivery directly from Amazon trucks, or via
>>>> USPS/UPS/common carrier?
>>>>
>>>> I order lots of things from Amazon and have no problems.  But almost
>>>> everything is via Amazon delivery trucks.
>>>>
>>>> Now FedEx on the other hand.  If something requires a signature, it'll
>>>> take an extra 2-3 days to get delivered.  Goes out on the truck, then back
>>>> to the shop every day with no attempt at delivery until the driver must
>>>> finally get mad enough to ring the doorbell.  Only if it needs a signature
>>>> though, normal drop-off deliveries are fine.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/22/2023 8:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I got an email at 3AM saying they couldn't deliver anything and I
>>>> should adjust my business hours.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have nothing for them to deliver.  All orders are delivered already.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe ChatGPT 2.0 is changing things not knowing what it's doing?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 11:37 PM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The robots are on strike!
>>>>
>>>> I've had amazon orders that tracking would say "it's out for delivery"
>>>> and I got the mail truck on the camera driving right on by, not stopping.
>>>> The part had to be re-ordered.  This has happened twice this year.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/20/23 13:21, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No payment issues here.  Maybe you and the employee have same type of
>>>> credit card or some other commonality?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe not related, but I did receive an order last week that was an
>>>> empty box.  Correct order number and the right size box, but nothing was in
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF mailto:[email protected] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>>>> via AF
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2023 2:58 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown mailto:[email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Amazon weirdness
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We have been having Amazon cancel orders.  Claiming problems with
>>>> payment.  Just found out at lunch that it is happening with one of my
>>>> employees as well.  Exact same thing.  Is this widespread?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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