100% patch panels eventually.

But yes, switches and patch panels.

What I'm asking about is generally "Front of rack patch cable management".
 Not the back, not the cables into the rack, not power cords on back of
equipment.   Simply port-to-port patch panel on the front.

On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 12:42 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Full of what?  Switches and patch panels?
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 2:37 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok let me clarify.  (Accidentally hit send since it's apparently the same
>> hotkey to send on gmail as I use elsewhere for "insert a return without
>> sending")
>>
>> Think 10 years of neglect and basically no front-side cable management.
>> Cables everywhere.   Not as bad as some reddit pictures, but definitely a
>> good 'before' picture.
>>
>> We're starting from scratch here.  All that exists is some side of 2 post
>> rack cable management (rings) which holds existing cat5 cables to some
>> patch panels.   It's pretty much full too....
>>
>> On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 12:32 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 12:21 PM Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Share a picture of what you have now?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 2:15 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to the (not) fun labor situation anymore, I've gotten sucked
>>>>> back into some more of the day to day design stuff at the WISP,
>>>>> specifically some of the server/fiber infrastructure at the head end.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's time for me to just fix the cable management in the racks, which
>>>>> apparently the previous "owners" of this particular portion of the network
>>>>> didn't feel was important, or probably more accurately, didn't know how to
>>>>> fix.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking for ANY options which have been proven to work, don't let
>>>>> the following dissuade suggesting a specific option.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now, what I'm thinking is to add a "0RU" fiber/cable management
>>>>> "tray" below each 1U switch and/or fiber patch panel, then drag that out 
>>>>> to
>>>>> a vertical riser  which is in front of the rack.   Note that this is for
>>>>> the open relay racks, not for closed server racks, not sure what to do
>>>>> there.
>>>>>
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