Agreed.  But that’s not what the Dept of Education does.  It genuinely is 
controlled at the local (and to a lesser extent, state) level.  So Chuck’s 
original post, not sure why I should care unless I live in Utah and have kids 
in school.

 



 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2025 1:51 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling this morning

 

I dont care if they make money as long as we stop pumping out basic education 
dolts who cant even read.

 

They successfully made sad people suicidal, they can manipulate at whim. 
Imagine if they could elicit the same dopamine response walking into a 
classroom that they do with watching reels for hours on end. A whole generation 
of kids addicted to getting an education. If they can achieve that, theyre 
entitled to the whole DOE budget we are hopefully about to free up. The CIA has 
nothing on the facebook shrinks. Im petrified that the nitwits coming out of 
our current education system are the nimrods who will be in charge of making 
sure my dirty old ass gets wiped, they dont have the scope for wiping asses, 
let alone the complex issues related to elder care.

 

On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 1:07 PM Robert <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

The FB algorithm idea is not bad, as long as they aren't trying to get $$ out 
of it...  That would be a whole different result...  ;)

On 3/5/25 10:23 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

yeah, like free money for fiber builds, trash spending. 

 

The issue isnt the flags, the issue is what goes along with it. nobody sticks a 
non standard component up and thats the end, its there as a distraction and as 
a point of contention. schools arent there for distractions or contention, and 
the damage of it shows. Same thing with the push to put the ten commandments 
up, other than the far fetched counting to ten and reading comprehension, 
theres no educational benefit to it. It is all about adults trying to 
indoctrinate kids into their personal beliefs rather than educating them. 

 

Personally, put the facebook algorithm psychologists on it. Determine the 
outcomes we want from education and have them put the manipulative color 
patterns and materials that generate a learning outcome and be done with it. 
Those guys know what theyre doing best.

 

Only thing I want to have on the wall in every classroom is the board of 
education a lot of my teachers had hanging up there. The reminder not to fuck 
around unless you wanted to find out. That kept my distractions of other 
students to a minimum

 

On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 12:07 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Bills get introduced with the promise of saving the children but if you scroll 
down to page 32 you'll see all the extra tax incentives for the rich.

 

On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 12:42 PM Chuck Macenski <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

So is this bill in response to an actual problem? 

 

On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 11:34 AM Steve Jones <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

restrictions are necessary within locations that arent voluntary. Schools are 
not voluntary, schools are under the oversight of the state, the state should 
dictate the exposures within the facility. This differs from non mandatory 
locations where people have the authority to move about unrestricted. 

Another such issue is ownership, the teacher does not own the classroom, so 
they dont have authority or freedom to do what they want.

In schools, the distraction factor is the main thing, because unless youre 
being willfully obtuse, those things are hung up to distract from the core 
purpose of regurgitating the approved curriculum.

If a teacher wants to hang unauthorized material, they can group homeschool or 
start a private school, pretty straight forward shit here.

 

There is a reason why there is such great support for dissolving the education 
system as it is, we spend the most per pupil with one of the lowest global 
outcomes. Its because instruction time is on the back burner to all the noise. 
You think the little yellow guys in asia give a shit about what extra flags 
they can hang? fuck no, their sole education focus is superiority, and thats 
why theyre winning globally

 

 

 

 

On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 10:58 AM Josh Luthman <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Pretty much any and all regulations is simply bad.  Why restrict people?

 

On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 11:37 AM <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > 
wrote:

Bill, this is the list of what is allowed (assuming the bill passes) in Utah 
classrooms:

 

Teachers in their classrooms, and cities, counties or the state on government 
grounds, would only be allowed to “place a flag in a prominent location ... 
where the flag is easily visible” if the flag is one of the following:

• United States flag

• Utah state flag

• Municipal flag

• Military flag

• Tribal flag

• Country flag

• Officially licensed public university flag

• Official public school flag

• Olympic flag 

 

Please tell me again why this is bad.  

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