So then eliminating DOE is a non issue. Lots more funding for schools at
the state level


On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 2:37 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> Agreed.  But that’s not what the Dept of Education does.  It genuinely is
> controlled at the local (and to a lesser extent, state) level.  So Chuck’s
> original post, not sure why I should care unless I live in Utah and have
> kids in school.
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 5, 2025 1:51 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling this morning
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> I dont care if they make money as long as we stop pumping out basic
> education dolts who cant even read.
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> They successfully made sad people suicidal, they can manipulate at whim.
> Imagine if they could elicit the same dopamine response walking into a
> classroom that they do with watching reels for hours on end. A whole
> generation of kids addicted to getting an education. If they can achieve
> that, theyre entitled to the whole DOE budget we are hopefully about to
> free up. The CIA has nothing on the facebook shrinks. Im petrified that the
> nitwits coming out of our current education system are the nimrods who will
> be in charge of making sure my dirty old ass gets wiped, they dont have the
> scope for wiping asses, let alone the complex issues related to elder care.
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> On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 1:07 PM Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
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> The FB algorithm idea is not bad, as long as they aren't trying to get $$
> out of it...  That would be a whole different result...  ;)
>
> On 3/5/25 10:23 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
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> yeah, like free money for fiber builds, trash spending.
>
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> The issue isnt the flags, the issue is what goes along with it. nobody
> sticks a non standard component up and thats the end, its there as a
> distraction and as a point of contention. schools arent there for
> distractions or contention, and the damage of it shows. Same thing with the
> push to put the ten commandments up, other than the far fetched counting to
> ten and reading comprehension, theres no educational benefit to it. It is
> all about adults trying to indoctrinate kids into their personal beliefs
> rather than educating them.
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> Personally, put the facebook algorithm psychologists on it. Determine the
> outcomes we want from education and have them put the manipulative color
> patterns and materials that generate a learning outcome and be done with
> it. Those guys know what theyre doing best.
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> Only thing I want to have on the wall in every classroom is the board of
> education a lot of my teachers had hanging up there. The reminder not to
> fuck around unless you wanted to find out. That kept my distractions of
> other students to a minimum
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> On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 12:07 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> Bills get introduced with the promise of saving the children but if you
> scroll down to page 32 you'll see all the extra tax incentives for the rich.
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> On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 12:42 PM Chuck Macenski <[email protected]> wrote:
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> So is this bill in response to an actual problem?
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> On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 11:34 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> restrictions are necessary within locations that arent voluntary. Schools
> are not voluntary, schools are under the oversight of the state, the state
> should dictate the exposures within the facility. This differs from non
> mandatory locations where people have the authority to move about
> unrestricted.
>
> Another such issue is ownership, the teacher does not own the classroom,
> so they dont have authority or freedom to do what they want.
>
> In schools, the distraction factor is the main thing, because
> unless youre being willfully obtuse, those things are hung up to distract
> from the core purpose of regurgitating the approved curriculum.
>
> If a teacher wants to hang unauthorized material, they can group
> homeschool or start a private school, pretty straight forward shit here.
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> There is a reason why there is such great support for dissolving the
> education system as it is, we spend the most per pupil with one of the
> lowest global outcomes. Its because instruction time is on the back burner
> to all the noise. You think the little yellow guys in asia give a shit
> about what extra flags they can hang? fuck no, their sole education focus
> is superiority, and thats why theyre winning globally
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> On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 10:58 AM Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> Pretty much any and all regulations is simply bad.  Why restrict people?
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> On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 11:37 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Bill, this is the list of what is allowed (assuming the bill passes) in
> Utah classrooms:
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> Teachers in their classrooms, and cities, counties or the state on
> government grounds, would only be allowed to “place a flag in a prominent
> location ... where the flag is easily visible” if the flag is one of the
> following:
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> • United States flag
>
> • Utah state flag
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> • Municipal flag
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> • Military flag
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> • Tribal flag
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> • Country flag
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> • Officially licensed public university flag
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> • Official public school flag
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> • Olympic flag
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>
> Please tell me again why this is bad.
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