lol, that would mean the decline began to happen prior to 2016, or are we
not doing the whole "we dont see the negative result for a long time" thing
now? Theyre instant? SUHWEEET!!! that means what we are doing right now is
completely fine, so all green initiatives that speak of clawing back carbon
outputs to stop future decline is no longer relevant in any way shape or
form. And I was gonna go put that tire fire out in the back yard, dont need
to do that now

On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 7:26 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well... Maybe the air quality is not all that great. Apparently air
> quality took a turn for the worse in 2016 (reminder: that was Trump 1.0).
>
>
> https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/nearly-half-americans-live-places-grades-air-pollution-report-says-rcna202104
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 4/22/2025 5:34 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> That's debatable.
>
> LA's air is better, so is Mexico City's.
>
> Both of them have far worse traffic, and summers are getting so much
> hotter such that you can't be outside. Phoenix is probably going to be
> impossible to be outside in 10 or 15 years (they had 70 days over 110 in
> 2024).
>
> Love canal is probably better off.
>
> Coal burning is at an all-time low; mainly because it's so expensive, but
> the new administration wants to reverse that (I personally think the
> economics make that highly unlikely).
>
> Good riddance agent orange.
>
> DDT is still used a lot in 3rd world (and some 2nd world) countries.
>
> The damming of rivers is on the decline a little, but maybe not enough. We
> haven't yet figured out how to store water (enough) without f**king up the
> ecosystem.
>
> and there are many places running out of water (see above).
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 4/22/2025 9:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Is the earth better off today than 55 years ago?
>
> Anyone remember smog in LA or worse yet -  Mexico City 55 years ago?
>
> Love canal?  Cities with coal burning industries and power plants?
>
> Agent orange.  DDT.
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