One of my sons found the BIOS was out of date. So he fixed that first (imagine a bios that does not take a UV burner to update). In any event, so far so good today. Going to jinx it by saying that. So we were arguing as to whether it was HW or OS failure. I say that BIOS is part of the HW. We compromised by saying firmware.
From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2025 8:06 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BSOD Yes, there are actual error codes. That will help you figure out what's going. Did you guys all forget Crowdstrike? On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 10:01 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Do they still put up a hex error code on the blue screen? I don't suppose the code reveals anything useful does it? Hardware fault and software bug are both always plausible. If there's no consistent behavior in the event log leading up to the blue screen, then my guess would be hardware. Disk issues can lead to bluescreen, but I would assume you'd have logs of other disk read failures and such. Silently dying without warning and without any error messages would make me think RAM. I haven't actually had to troubleshoot a PC issue in so long it's all kind of dusty, but I guess I'd start with wiggling my RAM and any expansion cards to make sure they're all in there solid. If you have two DIMMS I'd maybe operate with just one for awhile and see if it stops, then operate with just the other one for awhile and see if it stops. I'm sure you guys went through driver updates and all the other usual stuff. Maybe a driver downgrade is worth trying if you can identify when the issue started and there's evidence of an update around that time. Or isn't there a way to roll windows back to an earlier state? I forget what it's called because I haven't even thought about it since Windows 7, and I mostly remember turning the feature off to conserve disk space. -Adam _____ From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of Chuck <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2025 7:56 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BSOD It was doing it back to back this afternoon. I think it is HW. My son is thinking OS. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 27, 2025, at 1:50 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I can't even remember the last time I saw a BSOD. I do get some glitches in Win11, but blue screen's haven't been a problem. _____ From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of Chuck <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2025 8:26 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BSOD Just a blue screen and reboot. Logs offer no clue. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2025, at 12:16 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: No problems on any of my machines. What's the actual error? On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 2:09 PM <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: W11 BSOD is driving me crazy. I really don’t want to blame the hardware. Is this a thing with a recent W11 update or something? -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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