We have a BitWarden family account so we can have his/hers/ours
passwords. I use a phrase that is about 40 characters long with
upper/lower case, punctuation, and numbers in it to "open the vault" so
to speak. All the passwords within it are machine generated by
BitWarden, and I have no chance of remembering any of them.
I'm good until I turn senile, which should be any day now.
bp
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On 9/9/2025 7:57 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
Im a firm believer that complexity requirements as they grow security
vulnerabilities increase. When the bank auditors come in one of the
first things they do is flip keyboards and open drawers looking for
sticky notes. When you have to have a 16 digit password with all that
complexity, its getting written down or emailed to yourself, or saved
in a text file called passwords.txt, particularly in the age group
with the keys to the financial castles right now. The password cracker
calculators that say it would only take X amount of time to brute
force that password make me laugh, because if a login attempt flag
doesnt raise, its not a secure service thats being accessed anyway and
a brute force toolset probably wouldnt be the tool used, so there
really isnt a gain in end user password complexity, its more
than likely a net loss in security
Doesnt matter anyway cause bill already has our passwords and
account information. Im beginning to wonder if he isnt also behind
extended warranties, i just dont know what his depravity limits are at
this point
On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 9:30 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
I sometimes use 8675309, I figure nobody under 60 will guess it.
A WISP we bought out had ihtmanpn19 as the password on everything,
for “I have to make a new password now” and apparently they had
done it 19 times.
20 years ago when WEP was still a thing, hardly anyone could come
up with a 10 digit hex password. You’d tell them it has to be
exactly 10 characters and you can only use 0-9 and A-F, and their
brains would just freeze up. So we’d tell them to use their 10
digit phone number as their WiFi password. Some are still using
that password, although the landline phone is probably gone.
I wonder what the meetings are like where they come up with
password complexity rules. Let’s make them use upper and lower
case letters.
And no dictionary words. Oh, and numbers. That was fun, let’s
require special characters now, watch them struggle. How about
you can’t repeat the same character. Or use any of your last 10
passwords. Can we make them eat a bug?
*From:*AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 9, 2025 8:52 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Gmail filters
thats ingenious, hiding in plain sight
On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 4:27 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]>
wrote:
I always use 12345678!
The bang at the always throws them off.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 9/8/2025 2:15 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
based on your recent shady antics i think its you. Are you
the Google bill? do you have my passwords? is this what
its all been about?
dude, its Password1, its always been Password1
On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 3:01 PM Bill Prince
<[email protected]> wrote:
Darn good question. Exactly who is/are the
intermediaries? How many hands(eyes) do your
credentials pass through?
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 9/8/2025 10:59 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
This is why I hate all the sites that say “or log
in with Google”. Like paywalled content sites.
What does that even mean, log in with Google?
*From:*AF <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> *On Behalf Of
*Bill Prince
*Sent:* Monday, September 8, 2025 12:10 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Gmail filters
The history did not show anything that looked even
remotely suspicious, and this account has no
forwarding rules. There was one filter that I put
in so long ago, I don't remember when it was. This
new filter just appeared out of nowhere (at least
to me).
I use Thunderbird most of the time, and rarely use
web mail. The one other activity that I'd been
doing in the time frame was archiving a bunch of
older emails to clear space, but I did that in
Thunderbird. In fact, I thought I'd accidentally
created a filter in Thunderbird (that's what I
used to archive the old emails), but after I did
the archiving, I purged the Thunderbird filters).
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 9/8/2025 9:15 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
you can look in your login history to see if
your account was accessed from elsewhere, also
just for kicks check your forwarding rules to
make sure there isnt a forwarder set up
On Sat, Sep 6, 2025 at 5:36 PM Bill Prince
<[email protected]> wrote:
Just a few days ago, I changed all my
google account passwords (in case
you hadn't heard, there was a breach of ~~
2.5 billion accounts).
As is probably the case with most of you,
I have several google accounts
for different purposes (including this
one). So I went through them one
by one. Just changed the passwords, and
nothing else.
Right after that, all my AF incoming
started going directly to trash
(not spam). I couldn't for the life of me
figure out why until I checked
filters, and somehow a filter had been
applied that directed all
incoming to the inbox was sent to trash.
I did not do that, and I don't know how it
happened. My SO thinks I was
hacked, but I have a hard time believing that.
None of my other google accounts was affected.
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