The diagnostic criteria for autism (and for that matter ADHD) have changed a lot over the past couple decades. Any comparisons over time that don’t take this into account will conclude there is an “epidemic” and start looking for a “cause”.
I guess I go back to my dad who was a food chemist (we’re talking a long time ago) and he explained once to young me about how some chemicals had limits for how much was allowed, while others the allowable level was zero, which meant no detectable level. And measurement capability was always advancing. So this meant the stuff with zero detectable level would become a problem when it wasn’t previously. Not because they were adding more mouse droppings to the hot dogs, but because they got better at detecting mouse droppings. Or lead or mercury or whatever he was talking about. I am more familiar with the situation with ADHD because of a family member, but anyone with kids knows lots are being diagnosed with ADHD while in the past it was just written off as behavioral problems. So overall maybe a good thing, unless they’re going too far the other way. The latest thing I think is they’re diagnosing adults with ADHD, somehow that was being ignored, like only kids have it. So again, not an epidemic, just a change in diagnostic criteria. The other thing as someone already pointed out, is that correlation isn’t causality. From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 3:53 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Autism and Tylenol Oh jeez My boy needs to stop talking On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 3:36 PM Steve Jones <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: As long as pharma gets out of policy and "science" im good. have them stick to development and limit their marketing. The can do developmental science all day, but their scientist stay out of policy. I think it will be awesome funny if its not tyleneol and all the mopes screeching about it being that before the announcement are wrong Tylenol has never been trustworthy no matter how well it works. I watched the documentary on the tylenol killings recently, I was young so ony remember the hootinanny but not the details. The levels they went to to cover up the poisons in the manufacturing facilites was cray cray. Hevy tylenol use does correlate to the increase in precedence of the autist revolution FYI, Im 99 percent sure Im an autist, but I cured it by being a dick, no lie. But for real, its fucking miserable, being a dick helps a lot. So if you know one of these jittery autists, take my word for it, every days a bad day, unless its not, then its A-OK. Tylenol wasa regular staple in my mom and grandmas cabinet Regardless of the announcement today, the mope dicks will say its wrong, look now at the people already arguing against the science of it that they havent even been presented. On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 2:56 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: And yet apparently now glyphosate is fine, nothing to see here, move along. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rfk-jr-tells-farmers-gop-not-to-worry-pesticides-report/ So for some reason Monsanto and farmers are safe but Kenvue has a target on its back? Inquiring minds want to know. Actually RFK does some things I like (e.g. convincing food companies to eliminate artificial dyes without making overt threats), but more that I don’t, and he seems to be a dangerous quack just like people said he was. He also seems to have lied during his confirmation hearings. From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 2:39 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Autism and Tylenol But when do we get to see the short seller report? Cause I’m willing to be it has some interesting names on it. Mark It is not publicly known who shorted Kenvue stock in the weeks leading up to reports that Robert F. Kennedy Jr., as Health and Human Services (HHS) secretary, was expected to link Tylenol to autism. Information about short-selling activity is not immediately disclosed, and the Wall Street Journal's September 5, 2025, report that caused the initial stock drop did not name specific investors. Here is what is known about the short-selling and RFK Jr.'s actions: * The stock drop: Kenvue's stock fell more than 10% on Friday, September 5, 2025, following the Wall Street Journal report that Kennedy would likely announce a link between the company's Tylenol and autism. The news was met with immediate pushback from Kenvue and the scientific community, which states there is no evidence of a causal link. * Institutional trades: Public records of large, institutional stock sales and purchases are reported quarterly and are not available in real-time. This means that the specific short-selling activity just before the September 5 report is not publicly identified. * Previous anti-vaccine and anti-pharma statements: The stock market has reacted to Kennedy's anti-vaccine and anti-pharma positions before. For example, vaccine-maker stocks fell in November 2024 when he was named to lead HHS. This suggests that investors were aware of the potential for market-moving statements from Kennedy related to public health and pharmaceuticals. * No proof of insider trading: There is no public evidence suggesting any illegal insider trading occurred in this instance. For short-selling to be considered illegal insider trading, it would need to be proven that an investor received and acted upon specific, non-public information about Kennedy's announcement. On Sep 22, 2025, at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Every single vaccine without thought? On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 2:13 PM <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Yeah, you will get no argument from me. But I am crazy enough to take every vaccine I can get too... -----Original Message----- From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Bill Prince The HHS (or NIH or CDC or some combination of the three) are going to blame Tylenol for autism soon. However, I just listened to a science-based podcast that looked into the matter. There is a 20% increase in the probability that correlates Tylenol with autism (in some reports), BUT the studies that did find the correlation did not factor in secondary and tertiary conditions like the mother's age or that she had a fever (for which she probably took Tylenol). When they factored in those situations, the 20% correlation flat-lined (AKA went away). Correlation is not causation is the watch phrase. RFK does not know how to read medical reports. -- bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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