It just feels like Sirius and XM to me. This town’s not big enough for the two of us!
And T-Mobile 5G Home Internet will still get some of the value shoppers at $35/mo or whatever. It also feels like the AI bubble, everyone is driven by FOMO. Or an article I saw about EV manufacturers in China, there are something like 40 of them but the government keeps stimulating the industry with the result that capitalism doesn’t thin the herd and there’s a glut of EVs. Maybe not that different from the early days of the automobile when there were all these little brands. From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2025 10:37 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] can a town with 850 population support 3 ISPs They're building Pontiac right now, lashers and splicers all over town. I was talking to the splice and he said its already lit to the CO so they may start connecting customers. Really for here its good marketing ploy, pavlov and conxxus are scheduled way out on installs. And winter is coming. If they can drop lit service quick, pavlov and connxxus basically did all rhe frontier marketing for them On Thu, Nov 20, 2025, 10:22 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: That's sarcasm, right? -----Original Message----- From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2025 10:11 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] can a town with 850 population support 3 ISPs Ah, yeah, Frontier is pushing fiber all over the place in the rest of the area. -- Mike Hammett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2025 10:07:37 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] can a town with 850 population support 3 ISPs Shabbona, IL Mediacom, Syndeo and Conxxus. I guess Frontier might still decide to replace their copper with fiber. -----Original Message----- From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2025 9:53 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] can a town with 850 population support 3 ISPs Mediacom, Frontier, and Conexxus? -- Mike Hammett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2025 9:42:25 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] can a town with 850 population support 3 ISPs I should clarify this is not BEAD funded, since Mediacom was already there. From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2025 9:31 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] can a town with 850 population support 3 ISPs Those small towns are probably more about footprint than profit. the short of it is that if providers were footing their own bill this wouldnt happen. but when the dust settles and capitalism restarts, 2 of those 3 will be bought or bankrupt, but even at 300 take distributed evenly at 100 per isp with arpu 40, thats 48000 annual revenue, and we know that arpu will only go up as the capitalists fall. We had incumbent cable co. in the last 2 years 2 other fiber providers built our town, frontier is in process of lashing lines, and a 4th provider is doing the entire rural build (on your dome btw), but will be coming into town when thats done. so podunk il will have 4 fiber, 1 cableco, 2-4 LEO, and 1-3 cellular options (currently TMobile is the only reliable cellular home internet) for 11,015 population over 8.65 sq miles with 4680 homes and 417 businesses Nothing is real man, we are in a fever dream On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 9:16 AM Ken Hohhof < [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Incumbent cable company, incumbent FTTH company (aerial, no TV option), and now a second FTTH company (buried). 850 population and <400 houses. They just finished wiring the next town over (population 1400) and built their main line through this town to get there. Is the cost so upfront loaded that an FTTH company can survive with only 100-200 customers? Or is this a fight to the death? 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