In Illinois, at least, you can't subcontract away your responsibilities.
-- Mike Hammett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2025 1:46:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] how does BEAD subsidy work IRL? But can you get around that by subcontracting it out? I see most of that work being done by amigos with no name trucks. Maybe the installers burying drops and connecting ONTs are employees, but not the initial duct, handholes and flower pots. Hey, maybe these subs all pay prevailing wage and just don’t put their name on their trucks because they’re rented or something, I don’t have insider knowledge. I have definitely never seen the boards with all the OSHA and Dept. of Labor signs I typically see at job sites subject to state regulations. Does the fiber installer union have giant inflatable rats? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflatable_rat From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2025 12:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] how does BEAD subsidy work IRL? Not when you have to pay Bacon Davis wages. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2025, at 10:30 AM, Steve Jones < [email protected] > wrote: There is a reason the amigos are building the american connectivity dream. You bid at caucasian prevailing wage, then you hire three amigos and pay one prevailing wage, the other two technichally arent there. Right off the bat you can shave 2/3 your labor expense off the bid. Down the road from me they nabbed an amigo house, 28 mattresses in there. You can work for 1/3 a wage when youre splitting living expenses 28 ways. There should always be reciepts. Note in the funding they never put in oversight inspectors. Personally i think any "free money" projects from the government should have grift inspectors budgeted in. It should be called the department of poindexters, little slimy weasel nerds who snitched on everybody in school and ate their own snot. Even better, we only let amigos bid on the money, will get done faster, better, cheaper and with way better music On Fri, Nov 28, 2025, 8:24 PM Chuck < [email protected] > wrote: Yep, you get the whole enchalada. So hopefully your costs are way below you bid. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 28, 2025, at 6:41 PM, Ken Hohhof < [email protected] > wrote: I know that BEAD is supposed to pay 75% and the provider 25%, with some exceptions. But the states are administering the program, and the award goes to the provider who bid the lowest price for the project area. So is their bid what they get, or do they get 75% of that? Or do they still need to submit actual labor & materials costs and they get 75% of that? I’m confused. For example, let’s say the winning bid for an area with 200 locations is $5,000 per location, $1 million total. And let’s say it only costs $500K to connect all 200 locations, but nobody bid lower than $1 million. Does BEAD pay out 75% of the $500K actual documented cost? 75% of the $1 million bid? Or the full $1 million because the bids were already supposed to factor in the 75/25 split? -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
