I disagree. I don't think our allies distrust us. They don't LIKE lots of what Trump does, I think they see strength. I think they see "America First" and they respect that because they understand that as the USA goes, they go. They need a stron, unapologetic US who will stick their finger in the face of Russia and China. They need us to be like that because they can't/won't be like that for themselves. The European nations are all followers - not leaders. Biden & Obama did not lead. Obama was apologetic of the success of the US. My biggest fear is what comes AFTER Trump? Every country in the world can't be equal. Nothing gets done. And China and Russia aren't going to play that game.
Dave On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 3:13 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: > It's still totally unnecessary, and does nothing but create confusion and > distrust. If you want our allies to distrust us, then do shit like this. > > May actually be too late. They already distrust us, and China and Russia > are loving it. Just look at what Carney said. > > Stick an arrow pointing out of his ass, and that's probably where we > should be going. > > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 1/22/2026 9:07 AM, David Hannum via AF wrote: > > Even if it is what existed before, the world is on notice that we are > planning to deploy defense systems there. So yea, it's still a win and > Trump can take a victory lap (like he needs a reason . . . ) > > Dave > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 11:47 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Even though it was Wednesday, I will call it a TACO day (follow the stock >> market). >> >> There are zero details of what the "deal" is or isn't, and I'm betting >> it's essentially what existed before. >> >> Prove me wrong. >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 1/22/2026 7:43 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: >> >> Looks like Trump got the deal he wanted. Everyone is happy :). >> >> Rory >> >> On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 7:11 AM MVTVWISPA <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> David- >>> >>> >>> >>> I too read that exact information from Facebook posts word for word. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *David Hannum via AF >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2026 3:33 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>> *Cc:* David Hannum <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT - Greenland >>> >>> >>> >>> So many think Trump is a bully on Greenland . . . If you think he's so >>> terrible, you absolutely don’t know history. >>> >>> >>> >>> 1) 1867 – Andrew Johnson: explored buying Greenland & Iceland (right >>> after Alaska). >>> >>> 2) WWII – FDR: U.S. took over Greenland’s defense while Denmark was >>> occupied. >>> 3) 1946 – Truman: offered $100M in gold to buy it. >>> 4) Cold War – Eisenhower → Kennedy: nonstop negotiations for bases, >>> radar, missiles. >>> 5) Post–Cold War – Clinton/Bush/Obama: expanded Arctic security & >>> missile defense. >>> 6) 2019 – Trump: said publicly what presidents discussed privately for >>> 150+ years. >>> >>> The U.S. didn’t “suddenly” want Greenland. >>> It’s been defending it, negotiating it, and embedding there since the >>> 1800s. >>> Greenland = Arctic power, shipping lanes, missiles, minerals. >>> Trump didn’t invent it. His crime is he said the quiet part out loud. >>> >>> ======================= >>> >>> NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said on Jan. 21 at the World Economic >>> Forum in Davos, Switzerland, that Trump is spot on about the importance of >>> Greenland to security. He said, "When it comes to the Arctic, I think >>> President Trump is right. Other leaders in NATO are right. We need to >>> defend the Arctic. There are eight countries bordering on the Arctic. >>> Seven are members of NATO. That’s Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, >>> Iceland, Canada, and the U.S.,” Rutte said. >>> "And there’s only one country bordering on the Arctic outside NATO, and >>> that’s Russia. And I would argue there is a ninth country, which is China, >>> which is increasingly active in the Arctic region. So, President Trump and >>> other leaders are right, we have to do more there; we have to protect the >>> Arctic." >>> >>> >>> >>> Dave Hannum >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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