OT in the subject line frequently means political shit. Many have been hanging here 20 years. We can bitch without having social media algorithms listening. There is an animal farm FB group but it is unused. I think..
David, you are honestly clueless, there is nothing that can be said to you to get you to see the light. This is extremely typical with your ilk. You can see it in your responses of things like "libs" or "the left"
Have a good day, stop posting political shit here.
On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 4:49 PM David Hannum via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
See the response when you give a response that has thought behind it! Libs just resort to personal insults. It's all they have. No rebuttals, just personal attacks. Sad . . .
On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 12:25 PM David Hannum via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
I disagree. I don't think our allies distrust us. They don't LIKE lots of what Trump does, I think they see strength. I think they see "America First" and they respect that because they understand that as the USA goes, they go. They need a stron, unapologetic US who will stick their finger in the face of Russia and China. They need us to be like that because they can't/won't be like that for themselves. The European nations are all followers - not leaders. Biden & Obama did not lead. Obama was apologetic of the success of the US. My biggest fear is what comes AFTER Trump? Every country in the world can't be equal. Nothing gets done. And China and Russia aren't going to play that game.
Dave
On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 3:13 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
It's still totally unnecessary, and does nothing but create
confusion and distrust. If you want our allies to distrust us,
then do shit like this.
May actually be too late. They already distrust us, and China and
Russia are loving it. Just look at what Carney said.
Stick an arrow pointing out of his ass, and that's probably where
we should be going.
bp
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On 1/22/2026 9:07 AM, David Hannum via
AF wrote:
Even if it is what existed before, the world is on
notice that we are planning to deploy defense systems there. So
yea, it's still a win and Trump can take a victory lap (like he
needs a reason . . . )
Dave
On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at
11:47 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]>
wrote:
Even though it was Wednesday, I will call it a TACO day
(follow the stock market).
There are zero details of what the "deal" is or isn't,
and I'm betting it's essentially what existed before.
Prove me wrong.
bp
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On 1/22/2026 7:43 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
Looks like Trump got the deal he wanted.
Everyone is happy :).
Rory
On Thu, Jan 22, 2026
at 7:11 AM MVTVWISPA <[email protected]>
wrote:
David-
I too read that
exact information from Facebook posts word
for word.
From: AF <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of David Hannum via AF Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2026
3:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group <[email protected]> Cc: David Hannum <[email protected]> Subject: [AFMUG] OT - Greenland
So many think Trump is a
bully on Greenland . . . If you think he's
so terrible, you absolutely don’t know
history.
1) 1867 – Andrew
Johnson: explored buying Greenland &
Iceland (right after Alaska).
2) WWII – FDR:
U.S. took over Greenland’s defense while
Denmark was occupied.
3) 1946 – Truman: offered $100M in gold
to buy it.
4) Cold War – Eisenhower → Kennedy:
nonstop negotiations for bases, radar,
missiles.
5) Post–Cold War – Clinton/Bush/Obama:
expanded Arctic security & missile
defense.
6) 2019 – Trump: said publicly what
presidents discussed privately for 150+
years.
The U.S. didn’t
“suddenly” want Greenland.
It’s been defending it, negotiating it,
and embedding there since the 1800s.
Greenland = Arctic power, shipping lanes,
missiles, minerals.
Trump didn’t invent it. His crime is
he said the quiet part out loud.
=======================
NATO Secretary General
Mark Rutte said on Jan. 21 at the World
Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, that
Trump is spot on about the importance of
Greenland to security. He said, "When it
comes to the Arctic, I think President
Trump is right. Other leaders in NATO are
right. We need to defend the Arctic.
There are eight countries bordering on the
Arctic. Seven are members of NATO. That’s
Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland,
Canada, and the U.S.,” Rutte said.
"And there’s only one country bordering on
the Arctic outside NATO, and that’s
Russia. And I would argue there is a ninth
country, which is China, which is
increasingly active in the Arctic region.
So, President Trump and other leaders are
right, we have to do more there; we have
to protect the Arctic."
