lol, insugency On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 5:10 PM Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
> Steve, > What they are doing is so far beyond the job of removing violent > offenders, which is what the avowed purpose of the surge was claimed to > be. But you live in your National Socialist Workers Party enclave and > cheer the overthrow of the constitution. You are probably on a list of > drug abusers and when they finally get around to you, you will probably go > down claiming "I was all on your side, why me?" Or you are smart and will > enlist in the gestapo hoping that marching alongside protects you from the > chaos you will be part of. > > None of what is happening is about illegals at this point. It's about > provoking the insurrection act. But so far the people of MN are not > falling for it. The word PEACEFUL gets put front and center constantly. > And every peaceful killing is another stick in the craw of everyone else in > the country that understands that this is about the United States staying a > representative democracy. And a place that we can have these arguments > without being locked up in jail or killed. > > On 1/26/26 1:33 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > all he had to do was keep walking > Ice is there because its their job, the left says all they have to do is > leave > he was there for clout > A whole lot of these young guys are gonna end up pilled for clout > but you goot look at the view count on this, he go that clout > > This is why my younger kids dont and wont have much electronic, they dont > need clout, or to get the pills > > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 3:27 PM Carl Peterson <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Mark, >> >> Why does it matter why he was there? Perhaps he was getting donuts. >> Perhaps he was going for a walk? Getting coffee. Perhaps he was going to >> Far Left of Center for a gun safety class. It's a free country, at least >> for now. Are you going to blame everyone who gets assaulted by Trump's >> Republican Gestapo for existing in their own city wherever the goon squads >> show up? The funny thing about living in a war zone is that life just goes >> on. You still need to go out and get groceries, go to work, etc. >> >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2026 at 8:16 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Jason, >>> >>> >>> >>> I go back to my original question. Why was he even there? What >>> possesses an intelligent man to pick up his gun and go out in sub-zero >>> temperatures >>> to observe? All of these observers must now know there is an increased >>> chance they will be injured or even killed. Why would you voluntary go >>> into that type of situation. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Mark mailto:[email protected] >>> <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Myakka Communications >>> >>> www.Myakka.com >>> >>> >>> ------ >>> >>> >>> Sunday, January 25, 2026, 8:20:11 PM, you wrote: >>> >>> >>> They were spraying him with pepper spray before they even took him to >>> the ground. This is not a FAFO situation. They do not have a right to shoot >>> anyone because they have a holstered weapon on them. These guys are >>> amateurs and should never have been given a weapon and any authority. >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 7:13 PM Chuck <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> He violently resisted arrest. You always are in the wrong and you >>>> always lose. Add gun, dead. Simple. I see the cops taking a magazine, >>>> not a gun. FAFO. Dont in LEA. >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jan 25, 2026, at 5:58 PM, Jason McKemie < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> There is zero evidence that Pretti was picking a fight. He had a >>>> handgun on him, it was holstered until the ICE officer removed it himself. >>>> Where are the 2nd amendment people on this? Now carrying a weapon (legally, >>>> mind you) around law enforcement is justification for deadly force? I've >>>> watched a couple of the recordings and the administration is outright lying >>>> about this. Full stop. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2026, 5:49 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Trump Bad, Trump Good, ICE Bad, ICE Good, Renee Bystander, Renee >>>>> Domestic Terrorist, Alex Bystander, Alex Domestic Terrorist. It is >>>>> pointless to discuss these topics. People are too far entrenched in their >>>>> opinions. Nothing one side can say will ever change the mind of the other >>>>> side. The two sides will watch the exact same videos and come up with >>>>> polar opposite opinions of what happened. Even if something is proven as >>>>> complete fact by one side, it will be dismissed as false news or a cover >>>>> up >>>>> by the other side. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My question is why Minnesota, specifically Minneapolis and St. Paul. >>>>> Why has it become so violent and filled with hate just there. We do not >>>>> see this level of hate anywhere else in the country. ICE seems to be >>>>> making arrests without incident all around the rest of the country. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What makes an intelligent man (ICU Nurse) decide he is going to grab >>>>> his gun and go fight ICE agents. What happen to this man's thought >>>>> process? Does anyone here have that level of hate where they will decide >>>>> to grab their gun and venture out in sub-zero weather looking to pick a >>>>> fight with armed ICE agents? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> When did it become acceptable to storm a church during a service? >>>>> Protest outside if you want, but storming in during a service. Where did >>>>> this hate come from. Trump or Waltz, depends what side you are on. I >>>>> pretty sure the people storming the church had more hate than the people >>>>> inside the church in this case. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The ICE agents are there to do a job, like it or not. I don't >>>>> understand when it became acceptable to interfere in an arrest that you >>>>> know nothing about. You may agree or disagree with Trump's policies, but >>>>> that does not mean you can interfere with law enforcement doing their job. >>>>> Like it or not, believe it or not, they are arresting some bad people. >>>>> They also are making some questionable arrests. But being an "observer" >>>>> that knows nothing about what the arrest is about and interfering in not >>>>> the answer. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This is only going to get worst. The ICE agents are very skittish >>>>> with good reason. One could argue that in most situations they may be in >>>>> fear of their lives. It is just a matter of time before an ICE agent is >>>>> killed. There will be more "observer" deaths. Some will celebrate while >>>>> others rage. End of the day it is very sad whenever someone dies for no >>>>> good reason. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Some will say Trump just has to back down, others will say Waltz needs >>>>> to get control of his State. I fear neither of these men will do this and >>>>> more deaths will result. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Blame whoever you want, continue the name calling, continue the fear >>>>> mongering, fuel the hate, It is truly a sad time in our history. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Mark mailto:[email protected] >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.Myakka.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sunday, January 25, 2026, 3:01:58 PM, you wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So what I am hearing from you, Chuck, between the lines, is that you >>>>> abet the murder of Alex Pretti? That the actions of ICE in MN is ok >>>>> because of the premise of removing "illegal" immigrants? >>>>> >>>>> Come on I thought you understood that the legitimacy of a small good >>>>> isn't justification of evil. The lies that were put forth right off the >>>>> bat in the murder of Alex are not, in any circumstance, justifiable. Not >>>>> to someone who truly believes the Mormon religion. >>>>> >>>>> I am not Mormon, but a large part of my family is. And they are >>>>> some of the best people I am related to. >>>>> >>>>> I stay in this shit filled room because I believe that just leaving >>>>> doesn't do anything to clean up the crap. >>>>> >>>>> Your saying that part of what DJT does justifies the rest of what he >>>>> does sounds like those who looked the other way in Germany in 1936. OH >>>>> look he has saved the economy and built the autobahn. Look deeper into >>>>> the government and economy that Hitler built and you find it was all debt >>>>> financing and without the war is was just about to destroy itself. And >>>>> guess what is going on in the US right now. EXACTLY THE SAME. >>>>> >>>>> I consider myself centrist. But there is now and never a way to >>>>> justify the way that ICE is violating the constitution and the blessing of >>>>> that by the current administration. This has nothing to do with previous >>>>> administrations except for the contribution that they had in creating >>>>> justifications for people to create what we have Now.. Now we have to >>>>> be >>>>> clear that what is going on is NOT ok. And being indifferent to it is >>>>> abetting it. Going and saying that people who are being aghast at what >>>>> is >>>>> going on have TDS is saying you are on the side of the federal government >>>>> taking people filming or helping someone up off the street and killing >>>>> them >>>>> is a country that is good with you. Basically you are agreeing with the >>>>> tenants of a National Socialist Workers Party. And that anyone who isn't >>>>> is subject to Jail and death. You can kick me out of this group if you >>>>> want but taunting me to leave or shut up isn't going to work. That's >>>>> what >>>>> bullies do. >>>>> >>>>> I am directing this to you, Chuck, because you are/were the heart of >>>>> this list. The members here are hear because of what you gathered around >>>>> you, very much including me. To find out you bless someone of what DJT >>>>> does makes it alright for what else he does sounds like the teasings of >>>>> the >>>>> devil have embraced you. And that makes me sad. >>>>> >>>>> On 1/25/26 8:51 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I used to believe that the big L Democrats, AKA "party of the elites" >>>>> were full of educated, well read, literate, urbane, compassionate basket >>>>> weavers – But when one does ad hominim postings like this, devoid of >>>>> example and cogent argument – kinda proves the point that big L TDS folk >>>>> are more hateful and ignorant than the illiterate, unwashed, toothless, >>>>> rednecked, guns and god, deplorables. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> QED >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But yet you remain in the shit filled room… odd. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Dietrich Rushing via AF >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 25, 2026 8:05 AM >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Cc:* Dietrich Rushing <[email protected]> >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Greenland >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> When your in a shit fill room, aren't the smartest people the ones who >>>>> leave first? >>>>> >>>>> Hard to think anyone with a brain would ever support Trump or MAGA. >>>>> >>>>> All the calls for "no talk of politics" is delusional when its this >>>>> impactful to everyones lives, typically spewed by "the right" cowards and >>>>> other deplorables who can't defend their positions. >>>>> >>>>> On 1/24/26 11:32 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If I did move the list to my own servers it would probably update >>>>> faster…. But I am lazy….. >>>>> >>>>> Interesting, seems only liberals get pissed and leave. I wonder what >>>>> a sociologist would have to say about that… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 24, 2026 10:19 AM >>>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Greenland >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yeah…. I love a good pot stir. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think you would fail the Turing test for the wrong reasons though… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 24, 2026 10:05 AM >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Greenland >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Especially with AIs like me stirring the pot. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>>> On 1/24/2026 8:47 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You got three choices” >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Take your own advice and “don’t post this political shit. “ >>>>> >>>>> Because it is all opinion. Full of falsehoods, rhetoric, hyperbole >>>>> and minor particles of truth totally surrounded by horseshit. Yours more >>>>> than most in my opinion. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Or just sit back and enjoy the game. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Or you can leave. Like you say, it is a terrible platform… Why >>>>> would you want to even hang around here… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Ryan Ray >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2026 7:41 PM >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Greenland >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I just went back and looked, and my first post here was in 2012. So >>>>> maybe not 20 years here, but 13. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I can remember some pretty garbage times on this list every time >>>>> politics get raised, even to the point of certain people leaving, because >>>>> this is a terrible platform to trump(et) your views. Been on the internet >>>>> for over 30 years and not once have I seen sane political discourse on >>>>> message boards or social media. It's even worse with astroturfing in every >>>>> direction, literal bots riling up people in whatever direction Russia or >>>>> India or China wants. You've seen it, you've seen the bot problems on all >>>>> social media, and yet David talks about the USA standing up to Russia like >>>>> they're doing fucking anything about it. Other countries try to get rid of >>>>> the garbage social media companies from the USA and trumpster unilaterally >>>>> threatens tariffs and cries like a little baby. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The fact that the USA has gone so far down the path that you literally >>>>> have a man who apparently can do whatever they want with no consequences >>>>> is >>>>> the broke brain part of my statements. A literal rapist, thief. Cool. Nice >>>>> job. You guys did it. Build the wall and ya'll can sort each-other out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pick and choose your platforms, figure out what is real and what >>>>> isn't. Go talk to people in the physical world. You'll get to understand >>>>> your fellow man a lot quicker and if your aim is to make change. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 5:51 PM Chuck <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> OT in the subject line frequently means political shit. Many have >>>>> been hanging here 20 years. We can bitch without having social media >>>>> algorithms listening. There is an animal farm FB group but it is unused. >>>>> I think.. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 23, 2026, at 5:56 PM, Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> David, you are honestly clueless, there is nothing that can be said to >>>>> you to get you to see the light. This is extremely typical with your ilk. >>>>> You can see it in your responses of things like "libs" or "the left" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Have a good day, stop posting political shit here. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 4:49 PM David Hannum via AF <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> See the response when you give a response that has thought behind it! >>>>> Libs just resort to personal insults. It's all they have. No rebuttals, >>>>> just personal attacks. Sad . . . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2026, 7:44 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> <image.png> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 12:25 PM David Hannum via AF <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I disagree. I don't think our allies distrust us. They don't LIKE >>>>> lots of what Trump does, I think they see strength. I think they see >>>>> "America First" and they respect that because they understand that as the >>>>> USA goes, they go. They need a stron, unapologetic US who will stick >>>>> their >>>>> finger in the face of Russia and China. They need us to be like that >>>>> because they can't/won't be like that for themselves. The European >>>>> nations >>>>> are all followers - not leaders. Biden & Obama did not lead. Obama was >>>>> apologetic of the success of the US. My biggest fear is what comes AFTER >>>>> Trump? Every country in the world can't be equal. Nothing gets done. >>>>> And >>>>> China and Russia aren't going to play that game. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 3:13 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It's still totally unnecessary, and does nothing but create confusion >>>>> and distrust. If you want our allies to distrust us, then do shit like >>>>> this. >>>>> >>>>> May actually be too late. They already distrust us, and China and >>>>> Russia are loving it. Just look at what Carney said. >>>>> >>>>> Stick an arrow pointing out of his ass, and that's probably where we >>>>> should be going. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>>> On 1/22/2026 9:07 AM, David Hannum via AF wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Even if it is what existed before, the world is on notice that we are >>>>> planning to deploy defense systems there. So yea, it's still a win and >>>>> Trump can take a victory lap (like he needs a reason . . . ) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 11:47 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Even though it was Wednesday, I will call it a TACO day (follow the >>>>> stock market). >>>>> >>>>> There are zero details of what the "deal" is or isn't, and I'm betting >>>>> it's essentially what existed before. >>>>> >>>>> Prove me wrong. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>>> On 1/22/2026 7:43 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Looks like Trump got the deal he wanted. Everyone is happy :). >>>>> >>>>> Rory >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 7:11 AM MVTVWISPA <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> David- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I too read that exact information from Facebook posts word for word. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *David Hannum via >>>>> AF >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2026 3:33 PM >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>>>> *Cc:* David Hannum <[email protected]> >>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT - Greenland >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So many think Trump is a bully on Greenland . . . If you think he's so >>>>> terrible, you absolutely don’t know history. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 1) 1867 – Andrew Johnson: explored buying Greenland & Iceland (right >>>>> after Alaska). >>>>> >>>>> 2) WWII – FDR: U.S. took over Greenland’s defense while Denmark was >>>>> occupied. >>>>> 3) 1946 – Truman: offered $100M in gold to buy it. >>>>> 4) Cold War – Eisenhower → Kennedy: nonstop negotiations for bases, >>>>> radar, missiles. >>>>> 5) Post–Cold War – Clinton/Bush/Obama: expanded Arctic security & >>>>> missile defense. >>>>> 6) 2019 – Trump: said publicly what presidents discussed privately >>>>> for 150+ years. >>>>> >>>>> The U.S. didn’t “suddenly” want Greenland. >>>>> It’s been defending it, negotiating it, and embedding there since the >>>>> 1800s. >>>>> Greenland = Arctic power, shipping lanes, missiles, minerals. >>>>> Trump didn’t invent it. His crime is he said the quiet part out loud. >>>>> >>>>> ======================= >>>>> >>>>> NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said on Jan. 21 at the World >>>>> Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, that Trump is spot on about the >>>>> importance of Greenland to security. He said, "When it comes to the >>>>> Arctic, I think President Trump is right. Other leaders in NATO are right. >>>>> We need to defend the Arctic. There are eight countries bordering on the >>>>> Arctic. Seven are members of NATO. That’s Finland, Sweden, Norway, >>>>> Denmark, >>>>> Iceland, Canada, and the U.S.,” Rutte said. >>>>> "And there’s only one country bordering on the Arctic outside NATO, >>>>> and that’s Russia. And I would argue there is a ninth country, which is >>>>> China, which is increasingly active in the Arctic region. 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