*nods* I've seen it's a tool I have in the tool belt, but have never had a need 
to use it.




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----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2026 6:04:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH and permits



We are defined as quazi public utility and therefore have the power of eminent 
domain. I did it as an ilec a couple of times after we did things for a land 
owner and they reneged on the deal. 











From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Steve Jones 
<[email protected]> 
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2026 3:43 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH and permits 


Eminent domain is for governments, not privates. It's so close with government, 
but if a private tried to eminent domain me, the ar15 I don't have and the 10k 
rounds I don't have would enter the chat 


On Fri, May 29, 2026, 9:36 PM [email protected] < [email protected] > wrote: 



Eminent domain. 











From: AF < [email protected] > on behalf of Steve Jones < 
[email protected] > 
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2026 6:48 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [email protected] > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FTTH and permits 


city has no row permit authority outside the row, most dont care, but the 
permit cant technically cover both. nobody cares but thief city governments. 


we have row and center road property line mix her in the country, the massive 
fiber build is shut down by landowners right now because row doesnt apply to 
center roads 


On Fri, May 29, 2026 at 11:38 AM Ken Hohhof < [email protected] > wrote: 




A company deploying FTTH got all the buried infrastructure in, but has been 
moving the target date for hooking up customers from December to March to May 
to August. The reason they give prospective customers is permits. They say they 
got the permits to deploy in the ROW and utility easements but need permits to 
bury the drop cables to houses. 



Does this sound legit? I didn’t even realize you needed a permit to bury a 
cable in someone’s yard from their house to a handhole or flowerpot. Would this 
be a blanket permit to deploy in town, or a permit for each install? And could 
permitting really take 8 months? 
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