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One of the things that strikes me is how impersonal these big corporate layoffs are now, done via mass emails or text messages. I was a manager for several years at a division of Rockwell International. (Run by bean counters, any quarter below target could result in layoffs) Being a manager was an actual job, it involved some unpleasant tasks like layoffs, and some skills you had to learn for doing those tasks. First level managers would call each of their direct reports into their office and either tell them they were safe or they were being let go. Things like severance pay, COBRA, etc were explained by the manager or HR. Badges were collected. Some people would cry or get mad, but I never let someone go with a text or email or social media post, you did it in person. Maybe it's because so many people work remotely now? Or maybe line managers have 100 direct reports now? I get the impression management isn't really a job any more, that managers don't actually do anything. From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, June 19, 2026 9:31 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employees For one thing, there's been a perspective shift. It used to be we went to work unless we couldn't get out of bed. For lots of reasons. You'd get fired, people would think you're a baby, and your conscience couldn't tolerate that the day would be harder for your coworkers who rely on you. At some point I started hearing, "Don't go to work sick or you'll make everyone else sick." I think they underestimate rhinovirus if they believe that. We've also been building a shortage of workers across the board as the baby boomer population bump retires. You have to take the bad with the good because there's nobody to replace them, and you can't demand too much or they'll disappear. I know unemployment varies regionally, but I think anyone who hasn't been able to find a job in the past 10 years is doing something wrong. Another cultural shift is a different relationship with the workplace. My identity is wrapped up in my job, and I freely admit that. People now think that's unhealthy. I think if your identity is wrapped up in Pokemon or Instagram that you're an idiot. We'll see who's unhealthy when the next recession hits. -Adam _____ From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2026 7:15 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employees We have a continual, my head hurts too much to come in, throwing up, migrane, etc etc. Dizzy. Foot hurts. I missed maybe 1 day in the last year. I do work with I am sick though. _____ From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of Ken Hohhof <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2026 3:45 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employees Haha, I wish! From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2026 4:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [AFMUG] Employees In my experience owners are much healthier than employees. Is it just me?
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