Had you bought two years ago...along with Carl you would just about doubled 
your money.  

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> On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Gino Villarini via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Apple today without split would be in the $700 range
> 
> Sent from my Motorola Startac... 
> 
> 
> On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:38 PM, "Ken Hohhof via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On the Yahoo Finance chart, go to the Events drop-down menu, and put a 
>> checkmark next to Splits.  Hover over the split marker to get the details.
>>  
>> From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af
>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 4:24 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.....
>>  
>>  
>> Keep in mind apple has actually split....it was trading what, $400+ a few 
>> months ago?
>> I wish charts had some way of showing that but based on what i've been able 
>> to see, they never do.
>> All the sources of information (tv, media, charts) just go like it never 
>> happened....
>>  
>> You can google split information.
>>  
>>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ken Hohhof via Af
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 3:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.....
>>  
>> Well, Travis says get in and out in a day.  You say 20-50 years.  That 
>> pretty much covers any strategy you want to pick.  And some people are 
>> putting all their money in Bitcoin.
>>  
>> From: Bruce Robertson via Af
>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 3:17 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.....
>>  
>> I would call two years very short term because my investing horizon is 20+ 
>> years.   And I'm already (mostly) retired.  (Consulting gigs keep cropping 
>> up...)  If I were still in my 20s, my horizon would be 50 years.
>> 
>>> On 9/20/2014 1:03 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
>>> Take a look at this:
>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=AAPL+Interactive#symbol=AAPL;range=5y
>>>  
>>> and now imagine you are the advisor who put me (and no doubt other clients) 
>>> into AAPL in September 2012.  You can either call up those clients and say 
>>> good news, after 2 years of staring at a loss, you can finally take a nice 
>>> profit and invest in something else.  Or you can say buy another ticket and 
>>> take another roller coaster ride.
>>>  
>>> Besides, after years of almost getting negative interest on fixed income 
>>> (in Europe they actually pay banks to park money), there are finally some 
>>> options in stocks that pay dividends and even bond funds that are 
>>> worthwhile putting 25 or 30% of your money  in, making sure they are short 
>>> maturity because their value will go down once the Fed starts raising 
>>> interest rates.
>>>  
>>> But as far as ignoring short term stock market swings, I’m not sure I’d 
>>> call 2 years short term.  And if you look at the chart, AAPL looks exactly 
>>> like it did 2 years ago.  Sure, it could go up.  But let’s face it, what 
>>> did they announce.  A couple phablets which are really just catching up to 
>>> competition, and a smartwatch for next year.  Samsung is already mocking 
>>> the iPhone 6+ in their Galaxy Note 4 ads, and how sure are you that a $349 
>>> smartwatch will be the next must-have gadget?  And iPad sales have slowed 
>>> because once people have one, they don’t trade up to the next version like 
>>> they do phones, and a lot of them are WiFi only and not tied to a carrier 2 
>>> year cycle.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Bruce Robertson via Af
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:46 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.....
>>>  
>>> I only agree with your investment advisor if you're within 2-5 years of 
>>> retirement and you will be relying on those assets to live on.  Otherwise, 
>>> he/she is steering you wrong.  IMO, of course.  Your example of AAPL 
>>> illustrates exactly why.  You need to totally ignore short term stock 
>>> market swings, and keep some cash on hand for buying when plunges like 2008 
>>> happen.  BTW this takes nerves of steel.
>>> 
>>>> On 09/20/2014 12:24 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
>>>> FWIW, my investment advisor got me out of AAPL, and advises decreasing 
>>>> stocks at this point especially those that don’t pay dividends and moving 
>>>> a higher percentage into bonds.  Of course risk tolerance varies with age 
>>>> (how many years you have left to recover from a big loss).  But he 
>>>> evidently feels stocks have run up to the point where they are getting 
>>>> risky.
>>>>  
>>>> Regarding AAPL, I had quite a paper loss at one time, finally recovered 
>>>> and made a nice profit, but it looked pretty grim for awhile.  The myth 
>>>> was it would only go one way - up.  Problem with Apple is they always have 
>>>> to hit it out of the park, merely having a good quarter is a 
>>>> disappointment.  It must be like being a magician, but if you pulled a 
>>>> rabbit out of your hat last night, tonight you need to pull a lion out of 
>>>> the hat, and tomorrow a rhinoceros.  Wait, I’m thinking of Rocky and 
>>>> Bullwinkle.
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRW7pITY5Cg
>>>> I could swear there was one where he pulled Rocky out of the hat.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> From: Mike Hammett via Af
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:03 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.....
>>>>  
>>>> NetFlix and FaceBook haven't even existed "long term".
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: "CBB - Jay Fuller via Af" mailto:[email protected]
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 2:13:08 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.....
>>>> 
>>>> --- [ "CBB - Jay Fuller" mailto:[email protected] wrote ]:
>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>>  
>>>> Long term the stocks I'm interested in right now are Apple, Netflix, and 
>>>> Facebook.  They all have performed well long term.
>>>> I do not currently have any Netflix but it's also had a bit of a rocky 
>>>> road.  Look at its one year chart.
>>>>  
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Travis Johnson via Af
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:46 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.....
>>>>  
>>>> --- [ Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote ]:
>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>> The stock market is not a good "long term" investment, in my opinion.... 
>>>> unless you go into a fund like T. Rowe Price Blue Chip (which has returned 
>>>> me 30% so far this year). A single stock is just too risky.
>>>> 
>>>> The play is the one day in and out game... like this Alibaba stock... 
>>>> 
>>>> Travis
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/19/2014 11:39 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
>>>> --- [ Bill Prince mailto:[email protected] wrote ]:
>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Wait until the euphoria wears off.  I'll bet it hits $60 before the end of 
>>>> the year.
>>>> 
>>>> bp
>>>> On 9/19/2014 9:32 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> whewwww....it really tanked there.   below $91....
>>>>  
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:33 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.....
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> interesting...i'm listening. lol.
>>>>  
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Travis Johnson via Af
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:16 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.....
>>>>  
>>>> I disagree... I think today will be an amazing ride... people will make a 
>>>> TON of money if their timing is right.
>>>> 
>>>> Travis
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/19/2014 9:05 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
>>>> I would not touch that offering with a 10 foot pole.  I see nothing but 
>>>> sorrow.  Too much hype.  Too much unknown.
>>>> 
>>>> bp
>>>> On 9/19/2014 6:41 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Anyone trying to get in on Alibaba's IPO?
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> Comments?
>>>> Complaints?
>>> 
>>> !DSPAM:2,541dddf712601080671818!

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