I've been playing with v6 on a VM slice and it's been working fine, but of course that's not a real test.

On 09/25/2014 04:49 PM, Glen Waldrop via Af wrote:
I haven't run the newer versions of ROS on a PC yet. V5 was unstable on x86, at least on a Core i7. Seems stable enough on our DNS server, but it is AMD Phenom II and doesn't see traffic aside from DNS. Rumor has it v6 is pretty nice on x86. I'd love to hear confirmation from anyone. V5 enabled use of some Intel cards not working in v4, however would randomly reboot due to a QoS bug with that particular kernel.

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Bruce Robertson via Af <mailto:[email protected]>
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 6:40 PM
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE

    Oh, and if you really want to have a lot of horsepower.... why not
    go with a generic rackmount PC, with redundant power supplies and
    fans?� Serious question to those with more MT experience than
    I.... any problems with doing that?


    On 09/25/2014 04:25 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. via Af wrote:
    I see all this discussion on CCR and not running BGP on it. I run
    full tables with 2 external peers on my CCRs with no issue (1 has
    been up for 240 days and the other 367 days running 6.2 and 6.4
    software releases). I am not terminating PPPoE on the devices.

    You guys are scaring me now. What would you recommend for an x86
    product to handle about 800Mbps of traffic with at least 2
    external BGP peers and full routes? I see all these products that
    have atom processors, but that does not see large enough. I was
    hoping I could find something with Xeon processors.

    Gilbert

    On 9/25/2014 9:58 AM, Dennis Burgess via Af wrote:

    For the moment, anything with more than 1 full bgp feed really
    should be a x86 product, in v7 that may change, but the limited
    CPU for BGP in the CCRs is a major factor in our designs for our
    customers.

    �

    Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> �
    314-735-0270 � www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net>

    �

    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]]
    *On Behalf Of *James Howard via Af
    *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:54 AM
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE

    �

    I�m a bit confused.� What symptoms did you see with your
    routers?� What I got from Chris� description was that the
    CCR caused his Edge router to bomb.� Replacing the CCR
    didn�t fix the problem until they rebooted the Edge router.�
    Did your routers cause other routers to degrade or crash?

    �

    I�m not sure about there being an issue with 6.19 on the CCR
    but I can tell you that we saw a similar situation with a CCR
    that had 6.17 (or possibly older, not sure when we updated it)
    recently.� I would suspect that he�s having an issue with
    BGP on the CCR.� In our case, the CCR had 2 full BGP tables,
    PPPOE and OSPF on it.� It took down one of the BGP peers on
    the Edge router (PowerRouter V3 in our case).� I disabled the
    BGP peer on the Edge for about 5 minutes and everything worked
    happily.� When I started it back up, everything was fine until
    it randomly happened again.� We then shut down the BGP link
    between the PowerRouter and the CCR.� The CCR does not seem to
    be able to handle more than one BGP table if it�s doing
    anything else.� Another CCR seems to be happy as an edge
    router with 2 full tables on it.� It�s not doing any other
    function though and we are in process of ordering an x86
    replacement.

    �

    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On
    Behalf Of *Rory Conaway via Af
    *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:38 AM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE

    �

    No, our needs are much simpler but we saw similar issues on 5
    routers from 750�s to 1100�s.� Went back to 6.15 and
    haven�t had a problem in 3 weeks.

    �

    Rory

    �

    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]]
    *On Behalf Of *Chris Wright via Af
    *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:24 AM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE

    �

    Rory, thanks for your reply. Is your setup fairly similar to
    ours? PPPoE, Accounting, and BGP all done by the Mikrotik? How
    many sessions do you have and what kind of throughput?

    �

    Chris Wright

    Velociter Wireless <http://www.velociter.net/>

    �

    *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On
    Behalf Of *Rory Conaway via Af
    *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:16 AM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE

    �

    On the older routers, we went back to 6.15 and things have been
    rock solid.� We saw similar problems with 6.19.

    �

    Rory

    �

    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]]
    *On Behalf Of *James Howard via Af
    *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 6:39 AM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE

    �

    Have you tried taking down the BGP session on the Edge router
    for a couple minutes and then restart it?

    �

    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On
    Behalf Of *Chris Wright via Af
    *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:37 PM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* [AFMUG] CCR-1036 fun with PPPoE

    �

    CCR-1036 running RouterOS 6.19

    �

    After some serious amounts of testing, we felt our CCR was ready
    to take the plunge. The core router talks BGP to our two
    Imagestream Edge routers and gets all 500k+ routes from each in
    about three minutes. Its PPPoE server manages to authenticate
    the bulk of nearly 1800 customers in four minutes. All�s fine
    and dandy for about 12 hours, then not so fine and dandy things
    start happening. Overall traffic that should be near 600mbps
    seems to top off around 400mbps. Edge 1 goes unresponsive, VRRP
    doesn�t kick in on Edge 2 and the entire network degrades. All
    devices on our public switch go partially unresponsive to pings
    including our DNS servers, other various VM�s, and ESXi hosts
    themselves.

    �

    Here�s the fun part: We took the CCR out, just flat out
    unplugged it and turned on our old Core routers. They start
    authenticating customers but they�re insanely slow in doing
    it. It�s not until we reboot our Edge 1 router that things get
    back to normal and the old Core routers authenticate at
    acceptable speeds. Could the CCR be inducing a problem in our
    Edge routers perhaps?

    �

    �

    Chris Wright

    Velociter Wireless <http://www.velociter.net/>

    �

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