If you don’t need paid support from RedHat, CentOS is the way to go,
it’s the same thing minus the support and branding.
Want a chuckle? Take a look at the Solarwinds management product
advertised on the ISC website. Probably nothing wrong with the
product, Solarwinds is a good company. But the price is just
ridiculous. It will make you happy to use webmin. Honestly I just vi
the files manually. But you’re not going to get a customer to do that.
Steve, didn’t you say you had cPanel? Doesn’t that include a DNS
server and management tool, at least for authoritative DNS?
*From:* Josh Baird via Af <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 9:19 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
There probably isn't. Use CentOS.
Josh
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:34 PM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I dont want bleeding edge, I like stable, and as long as its
"secure" I dont like to change.
I never had really thought about purchased Linux before, looking
at RHEL I have no clue and I dont know that there is much benefit
to it with a handful of small single purpose virtual servers
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Josh Baird via Af <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I don't use webmin, so I can't specifically answer your
questions.. but, yes, Webmin is simply a "front-end" for
various services that you have running on your server. Out of
the box, your server is configured to use specific yum
(software) repositories that are specific to CentOS 5/6/7.
Unless you manually update one of these repository definitions
or are using your own local RPM packages, you will be pointing
at these native repositories. CentOS/RHEL repositories
maintain the same major version of package (9.8.2 in EL6,
9.9.4 in EL7) throughout a major version's lifecycle (ie 6.x,
7.x). RHEL/CentOS backports security patches into older
(stable) versions; so even if you are running RHEL6 with BIND
9.8.2, you are not vulnerable to security flaws or exploits
(as long as you keep your server's packages up to date).
CentOS/RHEL is not bleeding edge. They offer stable versions
of software and keep them up to date and safe by backporting
security patches. If you want bleeding edge packages you have
a few options - find third party yum repositories with newer
packages, compile your own BIND or use "non-enterprise" Linux
distributions such as Fedora.
Josh
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:09 PM, That One Guy via Af
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
so, webmin, it is just in its most basic form a gui and
package management system for linux and linux server
components?? Is this correct?
When I go to the package manager through webmin is if only
looking in repositories for packages compiled to run in
webmin, or is it looking for packages compiled for the
underlying linux distibution??
So if I want to update to the newest fanciest BIND
version, how would I go about it, yum update bind and the
like dont take it any further? If I did this outside of
webmin, will I lose the webmin functionality or cause it
not to function? Virtualmin as best i can tell is a module
for webmin, will this give me better access to newer
versions of BIND? I like windows because stuff either
doesnt work or its got bugs, we get two choices.
It looks like 9.8.8 is EOL last month, so i see what you
guys are saying about being behind
9.9.6 and 9.10.1 are both listed as current and stable,
but 9.9.6 says Extended Support Version, what does that mean?
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:51 PM, That One Guy via Af
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
i assume i cant update BIND beyong releases specific
to CentOS?
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
My BIND servers are on 9.10.0-P2.
*From:* That One Guy via Af <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 6:10 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who
dont want to be gurus
I already have installed bind through webmin, it
is a newer version, just by a couple revisions but
the ubuntu one wont update any more
its BIND version 9.8.2
I can manually add the slave zone and test the
transfer it updates from the master, I just
assumed I should be able to add it as another
slave and have it populate all the way
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
You need a named.conf that defines the slave
zones and the IP address of the master.
But first step is to download/compile/install
the latest version of BIND, it’s actually
quite easy. I doubt you can get the version
you want via yum update because CentOS is
based on RHEL which is always a few steps
behind. Given the DNS attacks, you want the
latest BIND. You might then want to lock out
the package from being updated by yum.
*From:* That One Guy via Af <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 4:36 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who
dont want to be gurus
So Im at a new Centos with webmin fresh bind
install.
We have one master, one slave server
I have never set up bind, this was done before me.
If I were to take down the old slave server
and bring this one up on its IP will the
master update this one, or is there a config I
need to move over. Im more comfotable doing
the slave first.
These are all webmin, but the original is
ubuntu and the new is centos
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Paul Stewart
via Af <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I always install CentOS bare bones ….
“minimal server” is what the installation
will call it. This way you can install
whatever you like after installation and
not worry about removing many dozen
packages you don’t need…
Just my preference anyways….
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf
Of *That One Guy via Af
*Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 2:24 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys
who dont want to be gurus
2 questions in this
1. when running through the current centos
installation, what do i select for the
server type, for powercode it says select
basic server
2. is there a guide for building dedicated
centos servers based on server purpose? I
assume there are packages I dont need to
install if its only got this purpose
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Paul
Stewart via Af <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
CentOS+BIND+Webmin J I can’t remember
but Usermin might be the part you’re
looking for specific to users updating
their own DNS…..
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On
Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af
*Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 1:21 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] DNS server for guys
who dont want to be gurus
Is there a good, simple package for
locally hosted DNS Servers for people
like me who dont want to get too far
into managing the linux at a granular
level? we are used to the webmin
interface. It would be nice if it had
the option to set up client accounts
for some clients to manage their own
DNS but not view others, but thats in
no way a deal breaker
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You must remember that the parts you are
reassembling were disassembled by you.
Therefore, if you can't get them together
again, there must be a reason. By all means,
do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance
manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You
must remember that the parts you are reassembling
were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't
get them together again, there must be a reason.
By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM
maintenance manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must
remember that the parts you are reassembling were
disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them
together again, there must be a reason. By all means,
do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must
remember that the parts you are reassembling were
disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do
not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you.
Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a
reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance
manual, 1925
