There probably isn't. Use CentOS. Josh
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:34 PM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > I dont want bleeding edge, I like stable, and as long as its "secure" I > dont like to change. > I never had really thought about purchased Linux before, looking at RHEL I > have no clue and I dont know that there is much benefit to it with a > handful of small single purpose virtual servers > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Josh Baird via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't use webmin, so I can't specifically answer your questions.. but, >> yes, Webmin is simply a "front-end" for various services that you have >> running on your server. Out of the box, your server is configured to use >> specific yum (software) repositories that are specific to CentOS 5/6/7. >> Unless you manually update one of these repository definitions or are using >> your own local RPM packages, you will be pointing at these native >> repositories. CentOS/RHEL repositories maintain the same major version of >> package (9.8.2 in EL6, 9.9.4 in EL7) throughout a major version's lifecycle >> (ie 6.x, 7.x). RHEL/CentOS backports security patches into older (stable) >> versions; so even if you are running RHEL6 with BIND 9.8.2, you are not >> vulnerable to security flaws or exploits (as long as you keep your server's >> packages up to date). >> >> CentOS/RHEL is not bleeding edge. They offer stable versions of software >> and keep them up to date and safe by backporting security patches. If you >> want bleeding edge packages you have a few options - find third party yum >> repositories with newer packages, compile your own BIND or use >> "non-enterprise" Linux distributions such as Fedora. >> >> Josh >> >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:09 PM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> so, webmin, it is just in its most basic form a gui and package >>> management system for linux and linux server components?? Is this correct? >>> >>> When I go to the package manager through webmin is if only looking in >>> repositories for packages compiled to run in webmin, or is it looking for >>> packages compiled for the underlying linux distibution?? >>> >>> So if I want to update to the newest fanciest BIND version, how would I >>> go about it, yum update bind and the like dont take it any further? If I >>> did this outside of webmin, will I lose the webmin functionality or cause >>> it not to function? Virtualmin as best i can tell is a module for webmin, >>> will this give me better access to newer versions of BIND? I like windows >>> because stuff either doesnt work or its got bugs, we get two choices. >>> >>> It looks like 9.8.8 is EOL last month, so i see what you guys are >>> saying about being behind >>> 9.9.6 and 9.10.1 are both listed as current and stable, but 9.9.6 says >>> Extended Support Version, what does that mean? >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:51 PM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> i assume i cant update BIND beyong releases specific to CentOS? >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> My BIND servers are on 9.10.0-P2. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 6:10 PM >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus >>>>> >>>>> I already have installed bind through webmin, it is a newer version, >>>>> just by a couple revisions but the ubuntu one wont update any more >>>>> its BIND version 9.8.2 >>>>> I can manually add the slave zone and test the transfer it updates >>>>> from the master, I just assumed I should be able to add it as another >>>>> slave >>>>> and have it populate all the way >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You need a named.conf that defines the slave zones and the IP >>>>>> address of the master. >>>>>> >>>>>> But first step is to download/compile/install the latest version of >>>>>> BIND, it’s actually quite easy. I doubt you can get the version you want >>>>>> via yum update because CentOS is based on RHEL which is always a few >>>>>> steps >>>>>> behind. Given the DNS attacks, you want the latest BIND. You might then >>>>>> want to lock out the package from being updated by yum. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 4:36 PM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus >>>>>> >>>>>> So Im at a new Centos with webmin fresh bind install. >>>>>> We have one master, one slave server >>>>>> I have never set up bind, this was done before me. >>>>>> If I were to take down the old slave server and bring this one up on >>>>>> its IP will the master update this one, or is there a config I need to >>>>>> move >>>>>> over. Im more comfotable doing the slave first. >>>>>> These are all webmin, but the original is ubuntu and the new is centos >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Paul Stewart via Af <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I always install CentOS bare bones …. “minimal server” is what the >>>>>>> installation will call it. This way you can install whatever you like >>>>>>> after installation and not worry about removing many dozen packages you >>>>>>> don’t need… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just my preference anyways…. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *That One >>>>>>> Guy via Af >>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 2:24 PM >>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2 questions in this >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. when running through the current centos installation, what do i >>>>>>> select for the server type, for powercode it says select basic server >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. is there a guide for building dedicated centos servers based on >>>>>>> server purpose? I assume there are packages I dont need to install if >>>>>>> its >>>>>>> only got this purpose >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Paul Stewart via Af <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CentOS+BIND+Webmin J I can’t remember but Usermin might be the >>>>>>> part you’re looking for specific to users updating their own DNS….. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *That One >>>>>>> Guy via Af >>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 1:21 PM >>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there a good, simple package for locally hosted DNS Servers for >>>>>>> people like me who dont want to get too far into managing the linux at a >>>>>>> granular level? we are used to the webmin interface. It would be nice >>>>>>> if it >>>>>>> had the option to set up client accounts for some clients to manage >>>>>>> their >>>>>>> own DNS but not view others, but thats in no way a deal breaker >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that >>>>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that >>>>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that >>>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if >>>>>> you >>>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do >>>>>> not >>>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that >>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you >>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do >>>>> not >>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that >>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you >>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not >>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the >>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you >>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not >>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >>> >> >> > > > -- > All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the > parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you > can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not > use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >
