There are several rules in the current GPS chipset about whether or not it
can produce sync.  If you have 4 they can definitely produce sync.   Less
than 4 is somewhat hit or miss depending on the exact orientation of the
satellites, and often more miss than hit.   I don't really have control
over this algorithm so I can't be more specific.

If you can move that one slightly so it's getting on average 1-2 more sats
tracked, then your problem should go away.

-forrest


On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Bill Prince via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Monitoring Sync Events works.  Had to wait 5 days for it to happen, but
> the counter increment corresponds to a loss of sync we had yesterday.
>
> I found this in the AP event log (event of interest in blue):
>
> 09/27/2014 : 07:24:19 PDT : : Bridge Core : Loss of sync pulse from Power
> Port! No other sync source available.
> 09/27/2014 : 07:24:23 PDT : : Bridge Core : Acquired sync pulse from Power
> Port.
> 10/02/2014 : 12:21:45 PDT : : Bridge Core : Loss of sync pulse from Power
> Port! No other sync source available.
> 10/02/2014 : 12:21:51 PDT : : Bridge Core : Acquired sync pulse from Power
> Port.
>
> We also monitor visible/tracked satellites on that SiteMonitor.
> Interestingly, the satellites tracked at about that time was 4 (see marked
> up graph below).  I suppose it's possible that the tracked satellites went
> to zero one minute (or less) after the SNMP poll, but it seems rather weird.
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the SiteMonitor only needed one
> satellite to maintain timing after it acquired a 3D fix?
>
>
>  bp
>
> On 9/29/2014 10:12 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af wrote:
>
> Yes that value will increment when the injector detects a loss of sync and
> also when it's restored.
>
> These are definitely good values to monitor, and I know at least one
> customer which does as you suggest and monitors for a non zero value and
> resets the value to zero to clear the error.
> On Sep 29, 2014 7:23 PM, "Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Yeah.  Not sure why I thought the index name was where I would get the
>> value.  The OID that shows in the UI for the Satellites Visible is:
>>
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.32050.2.1.28.2.1
>>
>> The OID for the actual value is
>>
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.32050.2.1.28.5.1
>>
>>
>> So I was able to fix that part.  What I'm wondering is how to know that
>> We've had a loss in sync.  There is something under Binary I/O called "1PPS
>> Active".
>>
>> Seeing as we only poll once every 5 minutes, catching that going to zero
>> seems slim to none.  However, I am intrigued by the "Events" value.  Does
>> that increment every time the Syncpipe loses sync?  In which case, I can
>> zero it out, and set a threshold for whenever it is non-zero (see below).
>>
>>
>> I may try that.
>>
>>
>> bp
>>
>> On 9/29/2014 1:28 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af wrote:
>>
>>  A little out of order:
>>
>>  On the OID's .. you may have the wrong OID.  There is an oid for the
>> title strings, and an oid for the value.  You may want to check the oid you
>> are using.   In addition, on the strings tab, there *are* strings which
>> list the specific statellite and signal strength of all of the sats it is
>> receiving a signal from.
>>
>>  One more troubleshooting item is the 'pulse received' counter on the
>> analog tab.  It should increment once and exactly once per second.  I've
>> had good luck comparing this value over a specific time.  I.E. at exactly
>> 10 minutes, there should be exactly 600 more pulses.
>>
>>  As far as fixing it:  I'd move the syncpipe, then try a different
>> one.   If a second does the same thing, then we need to look at what else
>> might be causing it.
>>
>>  If you want to send in screenshots to [email protected] of the
>> boolean/analog/string tabs from the sitemonitor, I might be able to see
>> something.
>>
>> -forrest
>>
>>
>> On Sep 29, 2014 1:40 PM, "Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> One of our many locations where we're using a Packetflux sync
>>> pipe/injector seems to be losing satellite lock once every few days.
>>> Typically it loses it for 2 to 4 seconds, but I've seen at least once where
>>> it went 13 seconds.
>>>
>>> I've not been able to get useful information from the SiteMonitor
>>> because the satellites tracked/Visible OIDs are returning a string with
>>> "Sats in View" and "Num Sats Used" instead of the actual values. (is that a
>>> bug or what? This is on F/W "Jul 29 2012").
>>>
>>> However, I'm getting messages like this in the AP logs:
>>>
>>> 09/21/2014 : 07:49:00 PDT : : Bridge Core : Loss of sync pulse from
>>> Power Port! No other sync source available.
>>> 09/21/2014 : 07:49:04 PDT : : Bridge Core : Acquired sync pulse from
>>> Power Port.
>>> 09/23/2014 : 18:49:37 PDT : : Bridge Core : Loss of sync pulse from
>>> Power Port! No other sync source available.
>>> 09/23/2014 : 18:49:41 PDT : : Bridge Core : Acquired sync pulse from
>>> Power Port.
>>> 09/23/2014 : 18:49:55 PDT : : Bridge Core : Loss of sync pulse from
>>> Power Port! No other sync source available.
>>> 09/23/2014 : 18:49:59 PDT : : Bridge Core : Acquired sync pulse from
>>> Power Port.
>>> 09/24/2014 : 18:47:15 PDT : : Bridge Core : Loss of sync pulse from
>>> Power Port! No other sync source available.
>>> 09/24/2014 : 18:47:28 PDT : : Bridge Core : Acquired sync pulse from
>>> Power Port.
>>> 09/27/2014 : 07:24:18 PDT : : Bridge Core : Loss of sync pulse from
>>> Power Port! No other sync source available.
>>> 09/27/2014 : 07:24:20 PDT : : Bridge Core : Acquired sync pulse from
>>> Power Port.
>>>
>>> Not sure what I might do here.  This is with all the equipment up
>>> against a concrete wall, so there is only a 180 degree view of the sky.
>>> Maybe a little bit less than that because the wall is not flat, maybe about
>>> 170 degree view of the sky.
>>>
>>> The APs are PMP450, and rarely get a GPS lock on the internal GPS.
>>> Maybe I can try moving the sync pipe away from the wall or something.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> bp
>>>
>>>
>>
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