So you think moving it a foot or so out from the wall might help?

bp

On 10/3/2014 3:33 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af wrote:
There are several rules in the current GPS chipset about whether or not it can produce sync. If you have 4 they can definitely produce sync. Less than 4 is somewhat hit or miss depending on the exact orientation of the satellites, and often more miss than hit. I don't really have control over this algorithm so I can't be more specific.

If you can move that one slightly so it's getting on average 1-2 more sats tracked, then your problem should go away.

-forrest


On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Bill Prince via Af <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Monitoring Sync Events works.  Had to wait 5 days for it to
    happen, but the counter increment corresponds to a loss of sync we
    had yesterday.

    I found this in the AP event log (event of interest in blue):

        09/27/2014 : 07:24:19 PDT : : Bridge Core : Loss of sync pulse
        from Power Port! No other sync source available.
        09/27/2014 : 07:24:23 PDT : : Bridge Core : Acquired sync
        pulse from Power Port.
        10/02/2014 : 12:21:45 PDT : : Bridge Core : Loss of sync pulse
        from Power Port! No other sync source available.
        10/02/2014 : 12:21:51 PDT : : Bridge Core : Acquired sync
        pulse from Power Port.

We also monitor visible/tracked satellites on that SiteMonitor. Interestingly, the satellites tracked at about that time was 4
    (see marked up graph below).  I suppose it's possible that the
    tracked satellites went to zero one minute (or less) after the
    SNMP poll, but it seems rather weird.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the SiteMonitor only needed
    one satellite to maintain timing after it acquired a 3D fix?


    bp

    On 9/29/2014 10:12 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af wrote:

    Yes that value will increment when the injector detects a loss of
    sync and also when it's restored.

    These are definitely good values to monitor, and I know at least
    one customer which does as you suggest and monitors for a non
    zero value and resets the value to zero to clear the error.

    On Sep 29, 2014 7:23 PM, "Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Yeah.  Not sure why I thought the index name was where I
        would get the value.  The OID that shows in the UI for the
        Satellites Visible is:

            .1.3.6.1.4.1.32050.2.1.28.2.1

        The OID for the actual value is

            .1.3.6.1.4.1.32050.2.1.28.5.1


        So I was able to fix that part.  What I'm wondering is how to
        know that We've had a loss in sync.  There is something under
        Binary I/O called "1PPS Active".

        Seeing as we only poll once every 5 minutes, catching that
        going to zero seems slim to none.  However, I am intrigued by
        the "Events" value.  Does that increment every time the
        Syncpipe loses sync?  In which case, I can zero it out, and
        set a threshold for whenever it is non-zero (see below).


        I may try that.


        bp

        On 9/29/2014 1:28 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
        wrote:
        A little out of order:

        On the OID's .. you may have the wrong OID.  There is an oid
        for the title strings, and an oid for the value.  You may
        want to check the oid you are using.   In addition, on the
        strings tab, there *are* strings which list the specific
        statellite and signal strength of all of the sats it is
        receiving a signal from.

        One more troubleshooting item is the 'pulse received'
        counter on the analog tab.  It should increment once and
        exactly once per second.  I've had good luck comparing this
        value over a specific time.  I.E. at exactly 10 minutes,
        there should be exactly 600 more pulses.

        As far as fixing it:  I'd move the syncpipe, then try a
        different one.   If a second does the same thing, then we
        need to look at what else might be causing it.

        If you want to send in screenshots to [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]> of the boolean/analog/string
        tabs from the sitemonitor, I might be able to see something.

        -forrest


        On Sep 29, 2014 1:40 PM, "Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


            One of our many locations where we're using a Packetflux
            sync pipe/injector seems to be losing satellite lock
            once every few days. Typically it loses it for 2 to 4
            seconds, but I've seen at least once where it went 13
            seconds.

            I've not been able to get useful information from the
            SiteMonitor because the satellites tracked/Visible OIDs
            are returning a string with "Sats in View" and "Num Sats
            Used" instead of the actual values. (is that a bug or
            what? This is on F/W "Jul 29 2012").

            However, I'm getting messages like this in the AP logs:

                09/21/2014 : 07:49:00 PDT : : Bridge Core : Loss of
                sync pulse from Power Port! No other sync source
                available.
                09/21/2014 : 07:49:04 PDT : : Bridge Core : Acquired
                sync pulse from Power Port.
                09/23/2014 : 18:49:37 PDT : : Bridge Core : Loss of
                sync pulse from Power Port! No other sync source
                available.
                09/23/2014 : 18:49:41 PDT : : Bridge Core : Acquired
                sync pulse from Power Port.
                09/23/2014 : 18:49:55 PDT : : Bridge Core : Loss of
                sync pulse from Power Port! No other sync source
                available.
                09/23/2014 : 18:49:59 PDT : : Bridge Core : Acquired
                sync pulse from Power Port.
                09/24/2014 : 18:47:15 PDT : : Bridge Core : Loss of
                sync pulse from Power Port! No other sync source
                available.
                09/24/2014 : 18:47:28 PDT : : Bridge Core : Acquired
                sync pulse from Power Port.
                09/27/2014 : 07:24:18 PDT : : Bridge Core : Loss of
                sync pulse from Power Port! No other sync source
                available.
                09/27/2014 : 07:24:20 PDT : : Bridge Core : Acquired
                sync pulse from Power Port.

            Not sure what I might do here.  This is with all the
            equipment up against a concrete wall, so there is only a
            180 degree view of the sky. Maybe a little bit less than
            that because the wall is not flat, maybe about 170
            degree view of the sky.

            The APs are PMP450, and rarely get a GPS lock on the
            internal GPS.  Maybe I can try moving the sync pipe away
            from the wall or something.


-- bp





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