Chris Sisler - RF Armor has/is creating a Customer AP with POE built-in but
it doesn't have a display as far as I know to show status or anything like
that. He is working on getting out the Tower/WISP switches first I think
and then the Customer AP.

http://www.netonix.com/cap-fxs-1.html

On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 4:18 PM, TJ Trout via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

> I would love to find a router that has poe output and all of the
> diagnostic features you mentioned. It would be nice if the customer could
> just look at the router to see the status of the connection up down or
> otherwise.
> On Oct 5, 2014 2:13 PM, "Chris Fabien via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'd say you are correct. Would love to have the functionality but even at
>> $75 I couldn't justify the cost.
>> On Oct 5, 2014 5:08 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af" <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Following up on the previous email about product ideas, I have an idea
>>> for a product which at least I think would be really cool, but I also think
>>> would likely be a big flop, just because of the apparent cost sensitivity
>>> of installs.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that it would be nice to replace the power injector at
>>> customer sites with more of an intelligent device.   One that provides
>>> functionality like traffic metering, cable diagnostics, customer-location
>>> speed tests, and so on.   The unit would have jacks for the radio, the
>>> customer equipment, and power.   It would also have a display which shows
>>> real-time usage data for the customer to be able to determine for
>>> themselves what their current internet consumption is.   There are a lot of
>>> natural outgrowths from this such as watchdog reset of the radio itself,
>>> automatic problem notification to the WISP, etc.   My goal would be to
>>> instrument this as much as possible.
>>>
>>> If you think of this as a 'smart power meter' for internet, with
>>> diagnostic tools built in, then you've got the basic idea.  This is not
>>> intended to replace the customer router/nat device, and will only be a
>>> Layer 2 device as far as traffic goes.  There will likely be some limited
>>> traffic shaping possible based on the underlying ethernet swtich chipset.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, these can't be a $20 device.   $75 might be doable for
>>> higher volumes, but $100 is more in the comfort zone for the volumes I
>>> typically move.  Of course, this is a CPE device and I'm not even sure how
>>> many I'd sell so these prices are guesses at best - but more likely to go
>>> down instead of up.
>>>
>>> Although I suspect most people would love to have one of these at each
>>> install, I have a hard time believing that most people would swallow adding
>>> even $75 to the cost of each install, let alone the $100 which might be the
>>> price I'd have to hit for lower volume.   Is this a fair assumption?  Would
>>> you add such a device to each install?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>


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