Sterling, we are taking a very similar approach, wireless backhauled FTTH
from tower to home, with long term plan to build out a ring for backhaul
later. We've worked the costs down to be manageable.

What chinese SFP have you had good results with? I tried one set and had
issues with having to enable/disable autoneg on one or both sides to get it
stable - this was with a RB260 to RB2011 link at a tower site.

On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af <[email protected]>
wrote:

>  Hybrid model, I bring bandwidth in via wireless to the neighborhood and
> set up a cabinet that serves all the houses in active Ethernet fiber.
>
> GPON is ok, but in this model so much of the expense was burial of conduit
> that it really didn’t make sense to just pull for GPON.
>
> Plus GPON restricts you to a specific vendor market.
>
>
>
> My model might not scale to thousands of installs a month, but it works
> for hundreds a POP.
>
>
>
> A POP is about $15k for 200+ connections completely contained and
> redundant.
>
> The end points and fiber construction are on top of that of course.
>
>
>
> That is the major expense, the labor to bore and trench and splice hella
> ton of conduit, boxes and fiber strands.
>
> My entire GigE NID/ONT setup is less than $100 installed though.
>
>
>
> Buried conduit all the way to the side of the house, and fiber to the NID.
>
> It’s built to last, the conduit and fiber being our biggest expense and
> asset.
>
>
>
> Mikrotik “ONT” and off the shelf lasers from china for next to nothing.
>
>
>
> I haven’t seen any cheaper ONT setup than what we do, and it’s full GigE.
>
> The only piece of the puzzle I’m missing to do 10GigE to the home is a
> cheaper transceiver.
>
> I’m sure that will come next year. Sky’s the limit once the fiber is in
> the ground on a one to one basis with the switch and the ONT.
>
> We leave enough fiber to do a pair at the house, though everything is BIDI
> right now.
>
>
>
> I don’t believe in VoIP or TV, so it’s all Ethernet. The customer can get
> their traditional phone and TV elsewhere.
>
> Which is nice for regulations because we dodge every single headache I
> used to have with a WISP.
>
>
>
> This fiber stuff is soooooooooooooooo much better and easier.
>
>
>
> Costs more though.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason Pond via Af
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:03 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza
>
>
>
> So enlighten us to what you are doing Sterling.  So far so good.
>
> Tomorrow will answer some more.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jason Pond
> Owner
> Grizzly Internet, Inc
> [email protected]
>
> On Oct 11, 2014 6:36 PM, "Sterling Jacobson via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Anyone there that would like to update?
>
> I couldn't make it.
>
> Not sure that I would have gotten anything out of it anyways.
>
> I don't use any equipment from any of the sponsors/vendors of fiber
> weekend.
>
> I'm just curious if they are all talking/preaching the same ONT/deployment
> strategies as usual?
>
> I wonder how close they are to what I am doing.
>
>

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