I can tell you from experience that even on the second hand market the traditional ONT/NID cost is way out of line unless you're getting some sort of subsidy. They do have a few useful features, but the $/meg first is way higher. For example, a 48 port Calix OLT is around $8k, vs a couple 24 port Planet units at $1800 for both. Then you have ONTs starting at $200, vs a $36 RB260GS. You can do the math.
-Jason On Sunday, October 12, 2014, Sterling Jacobson via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > What are they telling you guys that are at the fiber weekend? > > > > I would be interested to hear what they are saying in terms of ONT/NID > costs, fiber passed per household on single family homes costs etc. > > > > MDU are obviously less expensive. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On Behalf Of *TJ > Trout via Af > *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:58 PM > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza > > > > Any numbers on what it costs to serve an average urban or suburban > neighborhood per home ? Trying to get some ideas if we can afford the > investment in fiber. > > Like what would it cost to serve say 100 or 200 homes? And idea on roi if > you were paying for the fiber to be laid like I will be? > > On Oct 11, 2014 9:46 PM, "Sterling Jacobson via Af" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > Hybrid model, I bring bandwidth in via wireless to the neighborhood and > set up a cabinet that serves all the houses in active Ethernet fiber. > > GPON is ok, but in this model so much of the expense was burial of conduit > that it really didn’t make sense to just pull for GPON. > > Plus GPON restricts you to a specific vendor market. > > > > My model might not scale to thousands of installs a month, but it works > for hundreds a POP. > > > > A POP is about $15k for 200+ connections completely contained and > redundant. > > The end points and fiber construction are on top of that of course. > > > > That is the major expense, the labor to bore and trench and splice hella > ton of conduit, boxes and fiber strands. > > My entire GigE NID/ONT setup is less than $100 installed though. > > > > Buried conduit all the way to the side of the house, and fiber to the NID. > > It’s built to last, the conduit and fiber being our biggest expense and > asset. > > > > Mikrotik “ONT” and off the shelf lasers from china for next to nothing. > > > > I haven’t seen any cheaper ONT setup than what we do, and it’s full GigE. > > The only piece of the puzzle I’m missing to do 10GigE to the home is a > cheaper transceiver. > > I’m sure that will come next year. Sky’s the limit once the fiber is in > the ground on a one to one basis with the switch and the ONT. > > We leave enough fiber to do a pair at the house, though everything is BIDI > right now. > > > > I don’t believe in VoIP or TV, so it’s all Ethernet. The customer can get > their traditional phone and TV elsewhere. > > Which is nice for regulations because we dodge every single headache I > used to have with a WISP. > > > > This fiber stuff is soooooooooooooooo much better and easier. > > > > Costs more though. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On Behalf Of *Jason > Pond via Af > *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:03 PM > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Weekend Wispalooza > > > > So enlighten us to what you are doing Sterling. So far so good. > > Tomorrow will answer some more. > > Sincerely, > > Jason Pond > Owner > Grizzly Internet, Inc > [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > > On Oct 11, 2014 6:36 PM, "Sterling Jacobson via Af" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > Anyone there that would like to update? > > I couldn't make it. > > Not sure that I would have gotten anything out of it anyways. > > I don't use any equipment from any of the sponsors/vendors of fiber > weekend. > > I'm just curious if they are all talking/preaching the same ONT/deployment > strategies as usual? > > I wonder how close they are to what I am doing. > >
