Neat!

I've got to try that!


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kade Sullivan via Af 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 1:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Booyah, I still believe


  That kid taught me how to get tons of AA batteries super cheap.  Just buy the 
big batteries and cut them open.  Tons of AAs just come POURING out!


  On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Bill Prince via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

    What the heck is a cow magnate?

    This whole discussion reminds me of the Youtube nerd that shows people how 
to make their internet faster by wrapping the ethernet cable around a pencil or 
something...


bpOn 10/13/2014 7:33 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

      I agree, when it shows up in a major journal things may look a bit more 
legit.  The whole field has a taint so that may be one reason we have not seen 
peer reviewed publications.

      But this is one that keeps coming back again and again.  Powdered nickel, 
treated with special sauce, gives off extra heat when heated.  

      I find the isotope changes listed in the white paper the most interesting 
features.  Something is going on.  

      I would love to insert some nickel filled ceramic rods into my furnace 
and cut my gas bill by a third.  Better than cow magnets on your fuel line...

      From: Chuck Bartosch via Af 
      Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:19 AM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Booyah, I still believe

      Having formerly been in the field I'm more than skeptical. Of course, 
experience can be the bane of innovation. Still, 1.5 MW isn't a low power, low 
yield, hard to verify production. Whatever the source of the result, it's not 
an artifact (ie, it's presumably either real or its fraud).

      The past well-known announcements of cold fusion, as you know, have been 
either fraudulent or badly done science (as in, the effects were artifacts of 
poor design, not cold fusion).


      What makes me most skeptical is this isn't appearing in a reputable 
science journal, like Physical Review Letters (something like this surely 
qualify for publication in a high impact journal like PRL). Or...did I miss 
something? (Not impossible by any means).

      Chuck 
      Sent from my iPhone

      On Oct 13, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Kade Sullivan via Af <[email protected]> wrote:


        You cant get people to buy something without proof it's legit.  Of 
course they need a third party to validate.  They would need a bunch of cash to 
make a big enough reactor for it to actually be useful.   

        You can't just *do* things. It takes time/resources/money, and those 
dont come along with out validation.

        Not that I'm arguing the point that it's legit or not, as I have no 
knowledge of the subject.  I'd have to have it independently verified to offer 
my opinion :D

        On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Chuck Bartosch via Af <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          ...and for years it's been BS. Can you imagine how rich these guys 
would already be if it were real? If it were true, you really wouldn't need a 
third party to validate. Just do it and be insanely wealthy. 



          Chuck 
          Sent from my iPhone

          On Oct 13, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Chuck McCown via Af <[email protected]> wrote:


            Been following this for years.  This is the best paper yet.  

            From: Kade Sullivan via Af 
            Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 7:44 AM
            To: [email protected] 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Booyah, I still believe

            1 gram of fuel produced 1.5 MEGAWATTS of power over 32 days?  Am I 
reading that right? 

            Holy shit!

            On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Chuck McCown via Af <[email protected]> 
wrote:

              
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/191754-cold-fusion-reactor-verified-by-third-party-researchers-seems-to-have-1-million-times-the-energy-density-of-gasoline





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