I agree. The 30 to 60 degree models might be useful, especially if you can
co-locate them closely. I can easily see two of these per M-TOW-10 which
means you could replace a wider sector with multiple of these to increase
density.

-Ty

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Mathew Howard via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

>  I would argue that higher gain is more important if you are using DFS
> frequencies...
>
> I can definitely see situations where these would make sense though, but I
> think the ones in the 30-60 degree range are probably more interesting than
> the 90.
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Rory Conaway via Af [
> [email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2014 10:21 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rflelements announcement
>
>   I think the key thing here is the f/b ratio and the pattern.   10dB is
> fine if you are using DFS frequencies anyway.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt
> via Af
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:08 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rflelements announcement
>
>
>
> The pattern is not like a normal sector it opens wider at elevation.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *Im
> Auftrag von *Gino Villarini via Af
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 15. Oktober 2014 16:28
> *An:* [email protected]
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Rflelements announcement
>
>
>
> I thinkt he innovative thing here is the waveguide adapter between the
> radios ant the horns/dishes,
>
>
>
> 90deg sector has 10db gain.. Way too low I think
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> President
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> www.aeronetpr.com
>
> @aeronetpr
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Reply-To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM
> *To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rflelements announcement
>
>
>
> The simper Sectors  http://simper.rfelements.com/
>
> Not clear if the dish is a horn/reflector combination?
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *Im
> Auftrag von *Chuck McCown via Af
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 15. Oktober 2014 16:15
> *An:* [email protected]
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Rflelements announcement
>
>
>
> Which product are we talking about?  The one that looks like a dish has a
> patch array inside the cover.
>
>
>
> *From:*Ty Featherling via Af <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:06 AM
>
> *To:*[email protected]
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rflelements announcement
>
>
>
> So you're saying this is more marketing than innovation?
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Chuck McCown via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>   Angle is pretty much solely dependent upon gain.  So a typical horn is
> about as good as the best patch array or a smaller parabolic reflector.
> But they are worse than both in the mechanical sense.
>
>
>
> The higher the frequency the more practical horns become.
>
>
>
> *From:*Stefan Englhardt via Af <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2014 1:51 AM
>
> *To:*[email protected]
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Rflelements announcement
>
>
>
> This is realy something I did not expect: They announce Systems with Horn
> antennas.
>
> A quite different approach. Their sectors are directional antennas so
> coverage is not as good
>
> as with traditional antennas (Their marketing argues the opposite). But
> horn antennas
>
> should have very low sidelobes, a good FB-Ratio and allow small angles. So
> it should be possible
>
> to make a more dense deployment.
>
> What make me scare is the big opening where water and ice may cause damage.
>
>
>
>
>
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>

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