You wouldn't, since it would cease to run :-)

On Sunday, November 2, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

> Why would you pull half of the spark plugs on a Ferrari?
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> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke via Af" <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
> *To: *[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:03:18 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance
>
> I wonder how the performance of the Mimosa 256QAM product will compare in
> a 20 MHz wide, TDD channel when used with the same antennas, head-to-head
> against the Mikrotik board.  In a scenario not using any of the special
> frequency auto selecting features of the Mimosa/Quantenna chipset.
>
> I have in mind a setup with a pair of the Jirous 32dB high performance
> type antennas with a metal enclosure on the rear.
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> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Stefan Englhardt via Af <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
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>> The Sextant did not work for us at all. The QRT-5 has a quite good
>> Antenna for it’s size.
>>
>> But you cant upgrade/repair them as they use special screws you cant open
>> without damaging
>>
>> them.
>>
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>>
>> The Mars-Antennas have a metal housing so there is some shielding to the
>> back. We don’t like
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>> the outdoor-pigtails/connectors as with the rocket / ePMP-Force / ePMP
>> Sectors. Just one
>>
>> Ethernet leaving the housing to the bottom is the solution we see the
>> least problems.
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>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-bounces+ste
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-bounces%2Bste');>[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *Im Auftrag von *Mike
>> Hammett via Af
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 24. September 2014 15:40
>> *An:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance
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>>
>> I remember when they announced their new "high gain CPE" the Sextant...
>> which was still smaller than the smallest CPE I used.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
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>> *From: *"Glen Waldrop via Af" <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
>> *To: *[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:37:54 AM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance
>>
>> 
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>> I can't get over the small gain MT uses.
>>
>> It also bugs me that the FCC seems to be all about massive amps and small
>> antennas rather than the reverse.
>>
>> If it was actually about interference PTP shots with narrow beamwidth is
>> preferred. I suppose it is too much to ask for those in our government that
>> set the regulations to actually understand the tech they're regulating.
>>
>> I suppose it could be the manufacturers are going with big amps and small
>> antennas, but it seems that would cost more.
>>
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>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> *From:* Mike Hammett via Af
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
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>> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:33 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance
>>
>>
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>> The SXT antenna were always too weak. Give me 25 dBi or give me death.
>> Well, okay, I don't feel that strongly. I just won't buy it if not.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
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>>
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>> *From: *"Stefan Englhardt via Af" <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
>> *To: *[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:30:07 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance
>>
>> We’re starting the move to .ac with MT now. The 922UAGS-5HPacD has the
>> same dimensions as
>>
>> the 911/411 Boards so we just replace boards.
>>
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>> We get good results with Mars Antennas with housing for P2P. The
>> SXT-Antennas are to weak for .ac.
>>
>> The 19db Mars Antennas give good CPE/short range PTP with a small
>> footprint. We use these as
>>
>> Sector-Antennas where we have to cover small areas.
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>> The .ac firmware adaption is quite new but we see stable results in the
>> 300-400 Mbit/s range for short links.
>>
>> The .ac boards have faster CPUs so they may increase 11n-Speeds/NAT
>> Performance.
>>
>> The 922-Board has a SFP. Ethernetport has moved. Due to this the
>> RFElements Stationbox XL do not fit.
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>>
>>
>> MT .ac does PTP and PTMP and is downward compatible to older boards with
>> 11n/a.
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>> SXTs with .ac are not stable with the latest sw-release. So as always
>> with MT you’ve to betatest
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>> HW/FW-combination to get it running smooth.
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>> *Von:* Af [mailto:[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-bounces%2bste%[email protected]');>]
>> *Im Auftrag von *Rory Conaway via Af
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 24. September 2014 14:26
>> *An:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeeeeaaaaa, I don’t’ think so.  If you use Ubiquiti you pretty much know
>> what works and what doesn’t.  in reality, you use as few  custom features
>> as possible outside 802.11 compatibility and limit the radios to Layer 2
>> bridges or nothing more than NAT whenever possible.  Try not to use any of
>> the customer features although AirMax seems to be working pretty well.
>>   You just don’t want to add anything that adds to processor overhead on an
>> AP for Rocket M5’s if you have a higher density.  When the Titanium’s
>> tanked a couple years ago, there was a huge hole in any kind of AP product
>> with the ability to handle density due to the processor but nobody filled
>> it.  It still hasn’t been filled to my satisfaction meaning we aren’t
>> replacing Rocket 5M’s any time soon and we are keeping them at 50 users or
>> less for another few months.  However, NetFlix and video streaming means we
>> are pushing that down to a planned 30 over the next couple of months.  That
>> numbers are just estimates but somewhere between 30-50 under heavy video
>> streaming usage and AirMax will start causing issues.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you allow torrents or anything that opens up a massive number of
>> connections, then the number of users per AP drops significantly which is
>> why we run filtering on the back end to reduce that.  I’ve seen APs with
>> less than 30 go apoplectic with a couple of wild torrent users.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-bounces%2brory%[email protected]');>]
>> *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:47 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance
>>
>>
>>
>> :-) the ubntboys tend to not be all that informed they blindly swear by
>> whatever the spec sheets and feature notices tell them
>>
>>
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>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
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>> For the first question, I have no idea, since the only released radios
>> are PtP at this time. Pretty hard to tell.
>>
>> For the second one, "ubntboys" (at least the informed ones) don't run
>> airsync, because they know it doesn't work well. :)
>>
>> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
>> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
>>
>> On 09/23/2014 09:06 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:
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>> does it work? or does it work in ubntboys eyes like airsync?
>>
>>
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>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
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>> For clarification for EVERYBODY reading this post, ALL AIRMAX AC
>> PRODUCTS HAVE AIRMAX OFFLOADING :)
>>
>> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
>> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
>>
>> On 09/23/2014 07:33 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote:
>>
>> The ptp-lites do have airmax offloading? I thought they didn't...
>>
>> We've had a link running for awhile, but it's got some noise issues, so
>> it hasn't really been the best place to test these... that said, they've
>> been running fine without any real problems that I've noticed.
>> �
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>> *From:* Af [[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-bounces%2bmathew%[email protected]');>]
>> on behalf of Josh Reynolds via Af [[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 9:49 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance
>>
>> ptp lites are missing the internal shielding (i think?) as well as
>> airprism tech
>>
>> they do have airmax offloading, but it's also a brand new product line...
>> some bugs are showing in the software
>>
>> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
>> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
>>
>> On 09/23/2014 06:48 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:
>>
>> These are basically beta release hardware? its missing some guts?
>>
>>
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>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Rory Conaway via Af <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
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>> I don�t have one but from what I�m reading, it�s not quite ready
>> for primetime.� I�m waiting.
>>
>> �
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> �
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces+rory
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-bounces%2Brory');>=
>> [email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On
>> Behalf Of *TJ Trout via Af
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 6:39 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance
>>
>> �
>>
>> How are the rocket AC's performing for you guys? Throughput? Bugs?
>>
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>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
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>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
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>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
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