I wouldn't because I don't own one.

Guys that do own one wouldn't either; their "fleet staff" would take care of it.

bp

On 11/2/2014 2:02 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote:
You wouldn't, since it would cease to run :-)

On Sunday, November 2, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Why would you pull half of the spark plugs on a Ferrari?



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    *From: *"Eric Kuhnke via Af" <[email protected]
    <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
    *To: *[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
    *Sent: *Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:03:18 AM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

    I wonder how the performance of the Mimosa 256QAM product will
    compare in a 20 MHz wide, TDD channel when used with the same
    antennas, head-to-head against the Mikrotik board.  In a scenario
    not using any of the special frequency auto selecting features of
    the Mimosa/Quantenna chipset.

    I have in mind a setup with a pair of the Jirous 32dB high
    performance type antennas with a metal enclosure on the rear.

    On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Stefan Englhardt via Af
    <[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:

        The Sextant did not work for us at all. The QRT-5 has a quite
        good Antenna for it’s size.

        But you cant upgrade/repair them as they use special screws
        you cant open without damaging

        them.

        The Mars-Antennas have a metal housing so there is some
        shielding to the back. We don’t like

        the outdoor-pigtails/connectors as with the rocket /
        ePMP-Force / ePMP Sectors. Just one

        Ethernet leaving the housing to the bottom is the solution we
        see the least problems.

        *Von:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+ste
        <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-bounces%2Bste');>[email protected]
        <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *Im
        Auftrag von *Mike Hammett via Af
        *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 24. September 2014 15:40
        *An:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
        *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

        I remember when they announced their new "high gain CPE" the
        Sextant...  which was still smaller than the smallest CPE I used.



        -----
        Mike Hammett
        Intelligent Computing Solutions
        http://www.ics-il.com

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        *From: *"Glen Waldrop via Af" <[email protected]
        <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
        *To: *[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
        *Sent: *Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:37:54 AM


        *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

        

        I can't get over the small gain MT uses.

        It also bugs me that the FCC seems to be all about massive
        amps and small antennas rather than the reverse.

        If it was actually about interference PTP shots with narrow
        beamwidth is preferred. I suppose it is too much to ask for
        those in our government that set the regulations to actually
        understand the tech they're regulating.

        I suppose it could be the manufacturers are going with big
        amps and small antennas, but it seems that would cost more.

            ----- Original Message -----

            *From:*Mike Hammett via Af
            <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>

            *To:*[email protected]
            <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>

            *Sent:*Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:33 AM

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

            The SXT antenna were always too weak. Give me 25 dBi or
            give me death. Well, okay, I don't feel that strongly. I
            just won't buy it if not.



            -----
            Mike Hammett
            Intelligent Computing Solutions
            http://www.ics-il.com

            
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            *From: *"Stefan Englhardt via Af" <[email protected]
            <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
            *To: *[email protected]
            <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
            *Sent: *Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:30:07 AM
            *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

            We’re starting the move to .ac with MT now. The
            922UAGS-5HPacD has the same dimensions as

            the 911/411 Boards so we just replace boards.

            We get good results with Mars Antennas with housing for
            P2P. The SXT-Antennas are to weak for .ac.

            The 19db Mars Antennas give good CPE/short range PTP with
            a small footprint. We use these as

            Sector-Antennas where we have to cover small areas.

            The .ac firmware adaption is quite new but we see stable
            results in the 300-400 Mbit/s range for short links.

            The .ac boards have faster CPUs so they may increase
            11n-Speeds/NAT Performance.

            The 922-Board has a SFP. Ethernetport has moved. Due to
            this the RFElements Stationbox XL do not fit.

            MT .ac does PTP and PTMP and is downward compatible to
            older boards with 11n/a.

            SXTs with .ac are not stable with the latest sw-release.
            So as always with MT you’ve to betatest

            HW/FW-combination to get it running smooth.

            *Von:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
            
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-bounces%2bste%[email protected]');>]
            *Im Auftrag von *Rory Conaway via Af
            *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 24. September 2014 14:26
            *An:* [email protected]
            <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
            *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

            Yeeeeaaaaa, I don’t’ think so.  If you use Ubiquiti you
            pretty much know what works and what doesn’t. in reality,
            you use as few custom features as possible outside 802.11
            compatibility and limit the radios to Layer 2 bridges or
            nothing more than NAT whenever possible.  Try not to use
            any of the customer features although AirMax seems to be
            working pretty well.   You just don’t want to add anything
            that adds to processor overhead on an AP for Rocket M5’s
            if you have a higher density.  When the Titanium’s tanked
            a couple years ago, there was a huge hole in any kind of
            AP product with the ability to handle density due to the
            processor but nobody filled it.  It still hasn’t been
            filled to my satisfaction meaning we aren’t replacing
            Rocket 5M’s any time soon and we are keeping them at 50
            users or less for another few months.  However, NetFlix
            and video streaming means we are pushing that down to a
            planned 30 over the next couple of months.  That numbers
            are just estimates but somewhere between 30-50 under heavy
            video streaming usage and AirMax will start causing issues.

            If you allow torrents or anything that opens up a massive
            number of connections, then the number of users per AP
            drops significantly which is why we run filtering on the
            back end to reduce that.  I’ve seen APs with less than 30
            go apoplectic with a couple of wild torrent users.

            Rory

            *From:*Af
            [mailto:[email protected]
            
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-bounces%2brory%[email protected]');>]
            *On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af
            *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:47 PM
            *To:* [email protected]
            <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

            :-) the ubntboys tend to not be all that informed they
            blindly swear by whatever the spec sheets and feature
            notices tell them

            On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Josh Reynolds via Af
            <[email protected]
            <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:

            For the first question, I have no idea, since the only
            released radios are PtP at this time. Pretty hard to tell.

            For the second one, "ubntboys" (at least the informed
            ones) don't run airsync, because they know it doesn't work
            well. :)

            Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
            SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>

            On 09/23/2014 09:06 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

                does it work? or does it work in ubntboys eyes like
                airsync?

                On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af
                <[email protected]
                <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:

                For clarification for EVERYBODY reading this post, ALL
                AIRMAX AC PRODUCTS HAVE AIRMAX OFFLOADING :)

                Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
                SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>

                On 09/23/2014 07:33 PM, Mathew Howard via Af wrote:

                    The ptp-lites do have airmax offloading? I thought
                    they didn't...

                    We've had a link running for awhile, but it's got
                    some noise issues, so it hasn't really been the
                    best place to test these... that said, they've
                    been running fine without any real problems that
                    I've noticed.
                    �

                    
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                    *From:*Af
                    [[email protected]
                    
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-bounces%2bmathew%[email protected]');>]
                    on behalf of Josh Reynolds via Af [[email protected]
                    <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>]
                    *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 9:49 PM
                    *To:* [email protected]
                    <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

                    ptp lites are missing the internal shielding (i
                    think?) as well as airprism tech

                    they do have airmax offloading, but it's also a
                    brand new product line... some bugs are showing in
                    the software

                    Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
                    SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
                    <http://www.spitwspots.com>

                    On 09/23/2014 06:48 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

                        These are basically beta release hardware? its
                        missing some guts?

                        On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Rory Conaway
                        via Af <[email protected]
                        <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:

                        I don�t have one but from what I�m
                        reading, it�s not quite ready for
                        primetime.� I�m waiting.

                        �

                        Rory

                        �

                        *From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+rory
                        
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-bounces%2Brory');>[email protected]
                        
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>]
                        *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout via Af
                        *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 6:39 PM
                        *To:* [email protected]
                        <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
                        *Subject:* [AFMUG] rocket ac lite performance

                        �

                        How are the rocket AC's performing for you
                        guys? Throughput? Bugs?



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                        reassembling were disassembled by you.
                        Therefore, if you can't get them together
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                All parts should go together without forcing. You must
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                together again, there must be a reason. By all means,
                do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925



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            together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do
            not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925




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