So, does UBNT have legs? Will it still exist in 10 years? Will Cambium?
*From:* That One Guy via Af <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 05, 2014 2:49 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses
If UBNT gets in the smart meter business, Chuck M better be the only
guy on it from that company. I can only imagine the disasterous
consequenses if they let the other UBNT promisers loose on anything
that matters
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Caleb Knauer via Af <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hmmm, Chuck M is showing a lot of interest in smart meters. I'm
calling it right now: UniMeter. Cloud-based 900Mhz meshed smart
meters. I'll license you the use of that name for a nominal fee.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Chuck Macenski via Af
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> In fact...the smart grid can help eliminate rolling
brownouts/blackouts by
> carefully managing the power delivered to customers on the end
of the lines
> by controlling the delivered voltage. Basically, these meters
give power
> companies the ability to measure the voltage delivered to meet
the minimum
> requirements at the end of each feed... Substation transformers
can then be
> set to deliver lower voltage (= lower power usage) thus avoiding
> brownouts...of course, load control (turning off your A/C)
doesn't hurt
> either.
>
> Pre-smart grid, the main way the power company knew about lines
going down
> (storms, trees, etc) was when they got a phone call. These
meters will tell
> them where they have issues so they can route around much much
much faster;
> other parts of the smart grid can allow power to be rerouted
from a control
> panel rather than a power company truck and a guy with an
insulated stick
> throwing a switch in the rain.
>
> It is a fascinating topic...
>
> Chuck
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:48 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> The smartgrid does have the benefit off allowing essential
services to
>> stay up in the event of rolling black/brownouts
>>
>> I watched a PBS show about the power situation over in India or
one of
>> those places, its crazy, people steal power left and right just
tying onto
>> the wires. The transformers are always catching fire and people
dump water
>> on them. As much as I hate US power companies, I cant imagine living over
>> there. Linemen get beat up alot
>>
>> You could tell the show was geared at it being a humanitarian
issue, these
>> poor people losing their power... how will they survive, but
the majority of
>> the background images were of people powering consumer
electronics... not a
>> justifiable theft IMHO... I did not know TV was a basic human right
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Chuck Macenski via Af
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Smart meters certainly can shut you off remotely. That is a
huge safety
>>> benefit to the power companies - it turns out that turning the
power off to
>>> a customer that has not paid their bill is not always a
pleasant experience.
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From ComEd smartmeter FAQ:
>>>>
>>>> "Smart meters for residential customers will have remote
switching
>>>> capabilities that can be used when a customer closes an
account, then
>>>> reconnects when the customer starts a new account."
>>>>
>>>> "One of the benefits of this remote switching capability is
that ComEd
>>>> can provide electrical service to customers more quickly,
after the customer
>>>> has contacted ComEd to initiate service. ComEd can also
expedite the
>>>> transfer of electrical service when a customer moves from one
location to
>>>> another within the ComEd service territory."
>>>>
>>>> I see a post on the Mike Holt electrician forum about whether
calling
>>>> the electric company and having them remotely shut off the
power makes it
>>>> safe to work on, as opposed to pulling the meter. (hell no)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince via Af
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 11:06 AM
>>>>
>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses
>>>>
>>>> Well, maybe some of them. I don't think the ones around here
have that
>>>> capability. Wouldn't they have to have some large contactors
and a
>>>> relay? I think that alone occupies a lot more space than the
>>>> smartmeters occupy.
>>>>
>>>> For now I think they are mostly big brother watching.
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>>
>>>> On 11/5/2014 8:50 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think a smartmeter is?
>>>>>
>>>>> I compare it to cable. With analog cable, they had to send
a guy in a
>>>>> truck to shut off your service, but with digital cable a
computer can do it
>>>>> any time. I assume smartmeters have a remote shutoff
capability.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Caleb Knauer via Af
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:38 AM
>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses
>>>>>
>>>>> One day the circuit breakers will all be connected and
automated and
>>>>> we'll all be doooooooooommmmmdddd!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Chuck McCown via Af
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> circuit breaker...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Ken Hohhof via Af
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 5:15 PM
>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you unplugged your fridge lately? You have to roll it
out. That
>>>>>> involves taking off the grill at the bottom and figuring
out what kind
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> wrench you need to crank up the leveling screws. Then your
wife makes
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> pick up the dead mice and pet turtles and get out the
vacuum and sweep
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> all the dog hair and dried up vegetables that are back
there. Then you
>>>>>> climb back there and unplug it, count one Mississippi two
Mississippi,
>>>>>> plug
>>>>>> it back in, climb back out, roll the fridge back, re-level
it, and put
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> grill back on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Bill Prince via Af
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 4:18 PM
>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unplug it/plug it back in is cheaper than putting in an
on/off switch
>>>>>> (or
>>>>>> re-init switch).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/4/2014 1:46 PM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be happy to share in that job.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My big beef with our brave new world is that you have to reboot
>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Microwave display is screwed up....unplug it and plug it
back in.
>>>>>> Washing machine digital display is not
responding.....unplug it and
>>>>>> plug it
>>>>>> back in.
>>>>>> DVD Player frozen.....unplug it and plug it back in.
>>>>>> Dodge Intrepid won't shift gears......turn it off and turn
it back on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These are all true stories.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The internet of things will be a network of crap that
doesn't work
>>>>>> unless
>>>>>> you reboot it regularly. When they are up, the "things"
will all be
>>>>>> participating in a botnet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> finally someone took over Doug's job of letting us all know
the sky is
>>>>>> falling!?!?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hip hip hooray...long live Ken the prognosticator!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Bill Prince via Af
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The apocalypse is coming!!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/4/2014 11:58 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Soon, when your Internet goes out, you won’t even be able
to open
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> garage door or flush your toilet, because it will all be
in the
>>>>>>> cloud.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And as ISPs, we’ll be getting angry calls like “Is the
tower down? I
>>>>>>> can’t flush my toilet.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You think I’m joking? Remember the thread about LED bulbs
>>>>>>> interfering
>>>>>>> with garage door openers? One of the suggested fixes is a
garage
>>>>>>> door
>>>>>>> opener app on your smartphone. I assume that only works
if your
>>>>>>> smarthouse
>>>>>>> has working Internet. Our hives will cease to operate if
you cut the
>>>>>>> connection to the collective.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m imagining that something goes wrong with the cloud
controller,
>>>>>>> and now
>>>>>>> I can’t even use WiFi within my house, like printing to my
wireless
>>>>>>> printer
>>>>>>> or using Chromecast to my TV. Yes, I know, Unifi should
continue to
>>>>>>> operate
>>>>>>> without the controller once set up, but do some features stop
>>>>>>> working? Like
>>>>>>> handoff between APs?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Josh Baird via Af
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 1:47 PM
>>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can host them all on a single controller in your
datacenter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 2:24 PM, TJ Trout via Af <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can't stand unifi, have them came up with a way to do it
without a
>>>>>>> controller? What do you do if the customer doesn't have a
windows
>>>>>>> machine?
>>>>>>> Install a unifi "server" ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Sean Heskett via Af
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> UBNT UniFi...one SSID
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM, TJ Trout via Af
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What are you guys doing to cover large homes with good wifi
>>>>>>>>> coverage?
>>>>>>>>> Any options besides multiple routers with multiple
ssid's? Does
>>>>>>>>> rukus or
>>>>>>>>> someone make something with true roaming?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>> --
>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
that the
>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore,
if you can't
>> get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means,
do not use a
>> hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>
>
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if
you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
