Hi Bill
Thank you so much for the reply.
1. So basically you enable the DMZ and put the router on that IP and
then cascade any further routers ?
2. Have you used the Unifi at large client houses where they require
better coverage and they need Zero-Handoff ? Are there any know issues
you have come across ? I have read there are issues with VOIP (we use a
switch and Linksys PAP2T normally for VOIP) Or do you use something
else rather than Unifi ?
Kind regards
Kay
RioSat SL
------ Original Message ------
From: "Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 06-Nov-14 17:18:08
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses
Absolutely put a router in there instead of the switch. Especially if
they have any Apple devices (iphones, airports, Mac computers). They
have a nasty habit of opening connections, and never closing them. I
have watched them fill the NAT table in less than a half hour.
So if you are using NAT, at least limit directly-connected devices to a
single router on the DMZ. This will bypass the NAT table entirely.
Alternatively, switch the SM to bridge mode and put in a Mikrotik to
manage the internal network. We do this on selected accounts, and
maintain the Mikrotik from our NOC.
bpOn 11/6/2014 12:53 AM, RioSat SL via Af wrote:
Hi All
When we have a large house and using PMP100 in nat mode we tend to put
in a switch and then just cable routers to the switch giving each
router a different static IP on the WAN and then DHCP on the lan
normally with a different SSID and different channel but I have seen
other articles where the set up is as cascading routers - what would
you all recommend, should we change the way we are doing it ?
Kind regards
Kay
------ Original Message ------
From: "Jaime Solorza via Af" <[email protected]>
To: "Animal Farm" <[email protected]>
Sent: 06-Nov-14 03:35:59
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses
Yep. I saw it as well. Common in South America
Jaime Solorza
On Nov 5, 2014 7:16 PM, "Caleb Knauer via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:
<sarcastic comment on how that would require an "air" device to have a
working NMS/controller>
On Wednesday, November 5, 2014, Bill Prince via Af <[email protected]>
wrote:
If it is made by UBNT, then it would be the AirMeter.
bp
On 11/5/2014 1:43 PM, Caleb Knauer via Af wrote:
Hmmm, Chuck M is showing a lot of interest in smart meters. I'm
calling it right now: UniMeter. Cloud-based 900Mhz meshed smart
meters. I'll license you the use of that name for a nominal fee.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Chuck Macenski via Af <[email protected]>
wrote:
In fact...the smart grid can help eliminate rolling
brownouts/blackouts by
carefully managing the power delivered to customers on the end of
the lines
by controlling the delivered voltage. Basically, these meters give
power
companies the ability to measure the voltage delivered to meet the
minimum
requirements at the end of each feed... Substation transformers can
then be
set to deliver lower voltage (= lower power usage) thus avoiding
brownouts...of course, load control (turning off your A/C) doesn't
hurt
either.
Pre-smart grid, the main way the power company knew about lines
going down
(storms, trees, etc) was when they got a phone call. These meters
will tell
them where they have issues so they can route around much much much
faster;
other parts of the smart grid can allow power to be rerouted from a
control
panel rather than a power company truck and a guy with an insulated
stick
throwing a switch in the rain.
It is a fascinating topic...
Chuck
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:48 AM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]>
wrote:
The smartgrid does have the benefit off allowing essential
services to
stay up in the event of rolling black/brownouts
I watched a PBS show about the power situation over in India or
one of
those places, its crazy, people steal power left and right just
tying onto
the wires. The transformers are always catching fire and people
dump water
on them. As much as I hate US power companies, I cant imagine
living over
there. Linemen get beat up alot
You could tell the show was geared at it being a humanitarian
issue, these
poor people losing their power... how will they survive, but the
majority of
the background images were of people powering consumer
electronics... not a
justifiable theft IMHO... I did not know TV was a basic human
right
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Chuck Macenski via Af
<[email protected]>
wrote:
Smart meters certainly can shut you off remotely. That is a huge
safety
benefit to the power companies - it turns out that turning the
power off to
a customer that has not paid their bill is not always a pleasant
experience.
Chuck
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]>
wrote:
From ComEd smartmeter FAQ:
"Smart meters for residential customers will have remote
switching
capabilities that can be used when a customer closes an account,
then
reconnects when the customer starts a new account."
"One of the benefits of this remote switching capability is that
ComEd
can provide electrical service to customers more quickly, after
the customer
has contacted ComEd to initiate service. ComEd can also expedite
the
transfer of electrical service when a customer moves from one
location to
another within the ComEd service territory."
I see a post on the Mike Holt electrician forum about whether
calling
the electric company and having them remotely shut off the power
makes it
safe to work on, as opposed to pulling the meter. (hell no)
-----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 11:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses
Well, maybe some of them. I don't think the ones around here
have that
capability. Wouldn't they have to have some large contactors
and a
relay? I think that alone occupies a lot more space than the
smartmeters occupy.
For now I think they are mostly big brother watching.
bp
On 11/5/2014 8:50 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
What do you think a smartmeter is?
I compare it to cable. With analog cable, they had to send a
guy in a
truck to shut off your service, but with digital cable a
computer can do it
any time. I assume smartmeters have a remote shutoff
capability.
-----Original Message----- From: Caleb Knauer via Af
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses
One day the circuit breakers will all be connected and
automated and
we'll all be doooooooooommmmmdddd!
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Chuck McCown via Af
<[email protected]>
wrote:
circuit breaker...
From: Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 5:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses
Have you unplugged your fridge lately? You have to roll it
out. That
involves taking off the grill at the bottom and figuring out
what kind
of
wrench you need to crank up the leveling screws. Then your
wife makes
you
pick up the dead mice and pet turtles and get out the vacuum
and sweep
up
all the dog hair and dried up vegetables that are back there.
Then you
climb back there and unplug it, count one Mississippi two
Mississippi,
plug
it back in, climb back out, roll the fridge back, re-level it,
and put
the
grill back on.
From: Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 4:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses
Unplug it/plug it back in is cheaper than putting in an on/off
switch
(or
re-init switch).
bp
On 11/4/2014 1:46 PM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote:
I'd be happy to share in that job.
My big beef with our brave new world is that you have to
reboot
everything.
Microwave display is screwed up....unplug it and plug it back
in.
Washing machine digital display is not responding.....unplug
it and
plug it
back in.
DVD Player frozen.....unplug it and plug it back in.
Dodge Intrepid won't shift gears......turn it off and turn it
back on.
These are all true stories.
The internet of things will be a network of crap that doesn't
work
unless
you reboot it regularly. When they are up, the "things" will
all be
participating in a botnet.
finally someone took over Doug's job of letting us all know
the sky is
falling!?!?
hip hip hooray...long live Ken the prognosticator!
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Bill Prince via Af
<[email protected]>
wrote:
The apocalypse is coming!!!!!
bp
On 11/4/2014 11:58 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
Soon, when your Internet goes out, you won’t even be able to
open
your
garage door or flush your toilet, because it will all be in
the
cloud.
And as ISPs, we’ll be getting angry calls like “Is the tower
down? I
can’t flush my toilet.”
You think I’m joking? Remember the thread about LED bulbs
interfering
with garage door openers? One of the suggested fixes is a
garage
door
opener app on your smartphone. I assume that only works if
your
smarthouse
has working Internet. Our hives will cease to operate if you
cut the
connection to the collective.
I’m imagining that something goes wrong with the cloud
controller,
and now
I can’t even use WiFi within my house, like printing to my
wireless
printer
or using Chromecast to my TV. Yes, I know, Unifi should
continue to
operate
without the controller once set up, but do some features stop
working? Like
handoff between APs?
From: Josh Baird via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 1:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wifi for large houses
You can host them all on a single controller in your
datacenter.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 4, 2014, at 2:24 PM, TJ Trout via Af <[email protected]>
wrote:
Can't stand unifi, have them came up with a way to do it
without a
controller? What do you do if the customer doesn't have a
windows
machine?
Install a unifi "server" ?
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Sean Heskett via Af
<[email protected]>
wrote:
UBNT UniFi...one SSID
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM, TJ Trout via Af
<[email protected]>
wrote:
What are you guys doing to cover large homes with good wifi
coverage?
Any options besides multiple routers with multiple ssid's?
Does
rukus or
someone make something with true roaming?
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if
you can't
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do
not use a
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
