Whatever it is the local electric outlet sells TBH.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>

On 11/08/2014 09:29 PM, Darin Steffl via Af wrote:
What are the good zip ties you use? It's very hard finding some that don't snap below 55 degrees.

On Sunday, November 9, 2014, Josh Reynolds via Af <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Bout to say, our company has been doing installs with super88 and
    good quality zip ties in Alaska for about 10 years now.

    Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
    SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>

    On 11/08/2014 07:59 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote:
    If you use quality zip ties they are just fine.

    On Saturday, November 8, 2014, David Milholen via Af
    <[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:

        I need to find my old pics of a company that used Zip ties on
        towers instead of hangers or cable tray.
        A 400' run of lmr400 came loose during a winter storm and the
        Electric company thought it was a guy wire flappin in the
        wind from
        a distance and had everyone pacing the floor and trying to
        get to the site to look to see what needs to be done.

        Needless to say as a standard policy we do not allow for any
        zip ties anywhere on any of our towers including metal ones
        unless they are
        rated for outdoor use and only for short distances.

        As for type of hybrid cable we use. We use Bestronics to
        customize the ends for good terminations.


        On 11/8/2014 4:26 PM, Craig House via Af wrote:
        We have purchased outdoor rated unarmored fiber to run up
        many towers over the last 2 to 3 years I have not yet had a
        problem with any of it wearing through and we do not put it
        in conduit
         As long as you zip tie it frequently so that it is not
        rubbing around on anything it shouldn't be a problem
        We have been buying our fiber preterminated from discount
        low-voltage.com <http://low-voltage.com>
        I have never had anything sent to me that was not as we
        ordered it or that didn't work when we installed everything
        is been top-quality from them
        It even comes with a Kevlar Pullhook and plastic shroud over
        the pull in so you don't hang it on anything as you pull it up

        Craig

        Sent from my iPhone

        On Nov 8, 2014, at 16:19, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]>
        wrote:

        I don’t know much if anything about fiber, but I see lots
        of options here:
        http://ce.superioressex.com/products/communications/osp-cable/fiber/
        I would think armor would provide gopher protection in
        direct burial applications and cut resistance in tower and
        grain leg applications, but I also see several rugged
        non-armored types listed there including:
        double jacket non-armor (series 1G)
        ADSS 100/200/400
        heavy duty LT (series 1H)
        *From:* Darin Steffl via Af
        *Sent:* Saturday, November 08, 2014 3:57 PM
        *To:* [email protected]
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber to top of tower
        So you're saying don't go armored fiber at all but just
        outdoor rated fiber and make sure nothing can rub through
        the jacket? We're looking for something tougher that can
        withstand the pull up the tower and then the elements since
        we don't want to run conduit.
        On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Chuck McCown via Af
        <[email protected]> wrote:

            I cannot imagine a benefit to having armored/shielded
            on a fiber up the tower other  than mechanical
            protection.  It would not offer any electrical benefits
            and could actually pick up and transfer RF and induced
            impulses from lightening.
            *From:* Darin Steffl via Af
            *Sent:* Saturday, November 08, 2014 1:47 PM
            *To:* [email protected]
            *Subject:* [AFMUG] Fiber to top of tower
            Hey guys,
            For fiber runs to a switch or radio on top of the
            tower, do you recommend non-armored fiber or armored
            with the metal shield? If there a way to have armored
            fiber without metal inside?
            I'm wondering how some of you run fiber up to the top
            now and if having metal in the fiber is alright or if
            it's a bad idea because of lightning or grounding
            issues. Looking for best practices here. Thanks
-- Darin Steffl
            Minnesota WiFi
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            507-634-WiFi
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