I know experienced professional tower guys who would disagree. If there were horror stories, the zip ties weren't quality.
On Sunday, November 9, 2014, David Milholen via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > Uh noooo! > I also need to find some of the horror stories from tower america that > talk about the use of "Quality" Zip ties on a tower :) > If you are looking for a temp install and coming back in a couple years > then yes > Zip ties are the ticket otherwise build it like you mean it. > I am not a big fan of pipe clamps either. > > > On 11/8/2014 10:59 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote: > > If you use quality zip ties they are just fine. > > On Saturday, November 8, 2014, David Milholen via Af <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> I need to find my old pics of a company that used Zip ties on towers >> instead of hangers or cable tray. >> A 400' run of lmr400 came loose during a winter storm and the Electric >> company thought it was a guy wire flappin in the wind from >> a distance and had everyone pacing the floor and trying to get to the >> site to look to see what needs to be done. >> >> Needless to say as a standard policy we do not allow for any zip ties >> anywhere on any of our towers including metal ones unless they are >> rated for outdoor use and only for short distances. >> >> As for type of hybrid cable we use. We use Bestronics to customize the >> ends for good terminations. >> >> >> On 11/8/2014 4:26 PM, Craig House via Af wrote: >> >> We have purchased outdoor rated unarmored fiber to run up many towers >> over the last 2 to 3 years I have not yet had a problem with any of it >> wearing through and we do not put it in conduit >> As long as you zip tie it frequently so that it is not rubbing around on >> anything it shouldn't be a problem >> We have been buying our fiber preterminated from discount low-voltage.com >> I have never had anything sent to me that was not as we ordered it or >> that didn't work when we installed everything is been top-quality from them >> It even comes with a Kevlar Pullhook and plastic shroud over the pull in >> so you don't hang it on anything as you pull it up >> >> Craig >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 8, 2014, at 16:19, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I don’t know much if anything about fiber, but I see lots of options >> here: >> >> http://ce.superioressex.com/products/communications/osp-cable/fiber/ >> >> I would think armor would provide gopher protection in direct burial >> applications and cut resistance in tower and grain leg applications, but I >> also see several rugged non-armored types listed there including: >> >> double jacket non-armor (series 1G) >> ADSS 100/200/400 >> heavy duty LT (series 1H) >> >> >> *From:* Darin Steffl via Af >> *Sent:* Saturday, November 08, 2014 3:57 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber to top of tower >> >> So you're saying don't go armored fiber at all but just outdoor rated >> fiber and make sure nothing can rub through the jacket? We're looking for >> something tougher that can withstand the pull up the tower and then the >> elements since we don't want to run conduit. >> >> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Chuck McCown via Af <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I cannot imagine a benefit to having armored/shielded on a fiber up >>> the tower other than mechanical protection. It would not offer any >>> electrical benefits and could actually pick up and transfer RF and induced >>> impulses from lightening. >>> >>> *From:* Darin Steffl via Af >>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 08, 2014 1:47 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Fiber to top of tower >>> >>> Hey guys, >>> >>> For fiber runs to a switch or radio on top of the tower, do you >>> recommend non-armored fiber or armored with the metal shield? If there a >>> way to have armored fiber without metal inside? >>> >>> I'm wondering how some of you run fiber up to the top now and if having >>> metal in the fiber is alright or if it's a bad idea because of lightning or >>> grounding issues. Looking for best practices here. Thanks >>> >>> -- >>> Darin Steffl >>> Minnesota WiFi >>> www.mnwifi.com >>> 507-634-WiFi >>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook >>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Darin Steffl >> Minnesota WiFi >> www.mnwifi.com >> 507-634-WiFi >> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook >> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >> >> >> -- >> > > -- >
