That’s like saying I can’t make an agreement with my wife not to put a 
satellite dish on the roof.

You can agree to anything you want.  There may be legal remedies in a court of 
law, but that doesn’t stop you from signing the agreement.  And remember in 
cases like homeowners associations, people may actually want those rules.  They 
don’t want their neighbor painting their house purple or burying an old car in 
the front lawn as art or having 17 dogs or free range chickens.

There is also the wise saying “choose your battles”.

I think Rory’s case of city regulations would be a better battle to fight over 
this.


From: Mike Hammett via Af 
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:47 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again

Great example. The federal government restricts their ability to do that. You 
can't agree to violate that.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





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From: "Ken Hohhof via Af" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:25:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again


Bad example.  The agreement wasn’t to do something illegal like kill someone.

You can agree not to paint your house purple, not to have kids (retirement 
community), etc. in order to live there.

In any case, it’s a “how many angels can dance on the head of the pin” 
argument, the bottom line is these people wanted an indoor CPE and liked the 
WiMAX ones they got from Open Range.  But I think a mobile hotspot would 
probably serve the purpose, not sure what kind of usage cap Open Range had.

Also I think most of us get the people who don’t want our service because they 
don’t want an outdoor antenna for whatever reason and can’t understand why we 
have to put it outside, after all we’re “wireless”.  So there is at least some 
demand for indoor CPE.  Whether the Mimosa product actually works as claimed is 
another matter.  And even in 900 MHz, the Canopy indoor CPE was a poor enough 
seller they discontinued it.


From: Mike Hammett via Af 
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 7:55 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again

Doug Haas's favorite example is that it's illegal to kill somebody. You can't 
sign a contract to kill somebody and make it legal.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





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From: "Ken Hohhof via Af" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 7:47:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again


When Open Range went poof, we got several calls from people in townhomes who 
really loved their indoor CPEs, their HOA didn’t allow outdoor antennas, and 
OTARD was no use because they had signed a covenant.

From: Rory Conaway via Af 
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 7:34 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again

This is going to have limited use the U.S..  Unfortunately , with tax credits 
for certain type of windows and window films, most of our windows don’t work 
well with indoor radios.  We did a test one day and found that it was easier to 
get the signal through red brick than the window it surrounded.  



However, we have been installing 2.4GHz radios in windows in pre-built homes 
very successfully since they don’t have tinting.



On another note, it’s also why you don’t want to put your radar detector on the 
top of the windshield.



Rory







From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again



This is better than previous attempts in that it's a beamforming antenna on the 
CPE. It shapes the beam to point at the best signal it sees.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com






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From: "Jason McKemie via Af" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 2:25:25 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa did it again

Allowing customers to install their own CPE is a bad idea in any unlicensed 
frequency, both for your network as well as the spectrum in general.


On Wednesday, November 12, 2014, Stefan Englhardt via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

Now Mimosa announced an indoor window mountable CPE:



„Mimosa's C5i just changed urban Internet forever! Never wait on your service 
provider install again. Self-install in seconds and experience 500+ Mbps!“



To the mimosa Fans: How they change physics to make 5GHz penetrate through 
windows. We have not much

luck doing this with 3,5GHz licensed, beamforming and high power.










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