I wonder if Procera lumps TLS together with SSLv3.  The stuff you see about 
POODLE leads you to believe only a small amount of legacy sites use SSLv3.

From: Kurt Fankhauser via Af 
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:17 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] procera results

so if someone is logged into google and watched a youtube video it shows as SSL 
?

Sent from my iPhone 

Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110

On Nov 12, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Joe Falaschi via Af <[email protected]> wrote:


  That is one of my concerns with this solution.  Google already encrypts a 
fair amount of traffic.  I think if you're logged in to your google account it 
is encrypted and you can no longer identify it.  They also block search terms 
from being reported for SEO if the end user is logged in but that's another 
issue.  In any case a good portion of that SSL could be google video.  At the 
moment it's not a big deal but in the future it could be if others start doing 
the same thing.

  Joe Falaschi
  e-vergent.com, LLC.

  On 11/12/14, 7:43 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:

    That’s a lot of SSLv3 considering the POODLE bug.

    From: Brian Meredith via Af 
    Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 1:14 AM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] procera results

    Here's our inbound traffic for last month.

    On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Bill Prince via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

      That's a record in my book.  We have a new sub doing a 1/2 TB a week (2 
TB per month), and that is a high for us.

bp
<part-15@SkylineBroadbandService>

On 11/11/2014 8:57 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:

        Yeah, I have a new customer like that.  He was heading toward 3 TB/mo 
usage and was complaining because he couldn’t stream Netflix and Youtube at 
1080p while maxing out his connection with 10 NNTPS connections.  I think I’ve 
convinced him he needs to shut it off when he’s streaming.  Not sure why he 
can’t schedule on and off times or limit the bandwidth.  I think these people 
are video horders.  When you are downloading over 100 GB per day, when will you 
watch it all?  Unless this is 4K quality.


        From: Mike Hammett via Af 
        Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:41 PM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] procera results

        Quality of torrents is an issue. That's why the serious guys have gone 
back to UseNet. Automation is great.




        -----
        Mike Hammett
        Intelligent Computing Solutions
        http://www.ics-il.com





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        From: "That One Guy via Af" mailto:[email protected]
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:53:12 PM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] procera results


        when we audit through various means, we dont see much torrenting 
anymore, I think its gone out of style with youngsters with pandora and the 
like with cellular audio, less care about stored mp3, every video is available 
in real time now, so why bother torrenting a movie you cant verify the quality 
of beforehand

        On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Rory Conaway via Af <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          This is amazing.  Thanks.  What’s interesting to me is how little 
bandwidth torrents are using.  I can put up 10 people and 2 of them are using 
torrents almost immediately.



          Rory



          From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser 
via Af
          Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:10 AM
          To: [email protected]
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] procera results



          i am not blocking/shaping anything right now, that bar graph is only 
showing the top 10 results right now

          Sent from my iPhone



          Kurt Fankhauser

          Wavelinc Communications

          P.O. Box 126

          Bucyrus, OH 44820

          http://www.wavelinc.com

          tel. 419-562-6405

          fax. 419-617-0110


          On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Rory Conaway via Af <[email protected]> 
wrote:

            Kurt, are you blocking or shaping any torrents?  I don’t see that 
in your chart.



            Rory



            From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser 
via Af
            Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:23 AM
            To: [email protected]
            Subject: [AFMUG] procera results



            Havn't shaped any traffic yet with this procera box. But here is a 
graph of what kind of traffic the clients are using as a whole in one days 
time. Of course Netflix is at top. But i am surprised at how close behind that 
youtube is (shows up as http media stream) Usually at any given time the 
Netflix/Youtube accounts for 50-75% of all traffic running through this box.







            Kurt Fankhauser

            Wavelinc Communications

            P.O. Box 126

            Bucyrus, OH 44820

            http://www.wavelinc.com

            tel. 419-562-6405

            fax. 419-617-0110





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        All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that 
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you 
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use 
a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925








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    Regards, 

    Brian Meredith
    Chief Technology Officer / Network Administrator
    Softcom Internet Communications, Inc.
    (209) 744-4234

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