iOS devices have a mechanism in place that picks the best network between 2.4 or 5ghz. I don't know specifically how it does it. All my iDevices including my MBP will choose 5ghz first.
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > iPads are smart enough to do 5 GHz first, that's great! > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Currently there's three iPads on 5 Ghz. Stuck on 2.4 now are a printer an >> airrouter and an iPad. Of course most people are at work now, so tonight >> it'll be a different mix. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Luthman via Af" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Friday, November 21, 2014 2:28:25 PM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's >> >> What devices started using 5 GHz? Every device I've ever used just went >> to 2.4 first and stayed there. >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Get better devices? >>> >>> In my GF's house, it's about 50/50 2.4 and 5. Same SSID. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Josh Luthman via Af" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Friday, November 21, 2014 1:48:42 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's >>> >>> I have a Unifi 802.11ac dual band AP in my house. I had the same SSID >>> (Toobs) for both 2.4 and 5 GHz. Not a single device used 5 GHz. >>> >>> I've seen changed the SSID of 5 GHz (Toobs 5ghz) and I now know that my >>> Xbox one and cell phone will connect to it. It also works better than 2.4 >>> (noise thing I'm sure). It seems to be there's a lack of a solution to >>> push things off 2.4 onto 5. I've heard that Ruckus has some trickery to >>> this that may help. >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Rory Conaway via Af <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> That’s our policy also. Then we get to manage them. Need a dual band >>>> AirGateway next that’s less than $100. We are seeing about 40Mbps through >>>> the AirGateways which is more than most people need but I’m ready for a >>>> 5GHz version. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy >>>> via Af >>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2014 10:16 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> yeah, air routers are so cheap to give the customer its not worth not >>>> doing >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Travis Johnson via Af <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> This is why we just included a "free" WiFi router with all of our >>>> installations. It wasn't a separate item on their bill, it was just part of >>>> our service. Then we had control of the router, and could actually test >>>> clear to the router from our NOC. The customers liked it because they >>>> didn't have to worry about the router, and when it failed we just replaced >>>> it, no charge. >>>> >>>> Again... customer service is what wins the day. :) >>>> >>>> Travis >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/21/2014 9:00 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: >>>> >>>> I really question if customers want a device to help them >>>> troubleshoot. More like if we (a bunch of network admins) were the >>>> customer, that’s what we’d want. It’s like the guys on Big Bang Theory >>>> trying to imagine what a regular person would want. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The hurdle seems to be getting them to pay someone to fix problems in >>>> their internal network. If you can monetize this by selling an onsite >>>> support plan, or by dispatching from a separate side of your business that >>>> charges for service calls, that is good, as long as you can say this is not >>>> an Internet service problem, it is a customer network problem. Otherwise, >>>> refer them to a local computer shop that does house calls. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What amazes me is the reluctance to pay us $5/mo for a managed Mikrotik >>>> router that comes with free replacement, phone support and onsite support. >>>> All of a sudden it’s not so interesting to have us solve the problem for >>>> them. Yet they will go to Best Buy and let the kid talk them into a $200 >>>> Linksys AC router as the solution to all their problems. I guess that >>>> points back to me being a poor salesman compared to the kid at Best Buy. >>>> Probably because I know the managed router is a good deal for the customer, >>>> so if they don’t want it, I’m only going to push it so hard. While Best >>>> Buy makes tons more money on a $200 router than they do on a $50 router and >>>> doesn’t give a rat’s ass what’s good for the customer, so they sell the >>>> hell out of the expensive router. And people like going to stores and >>>> buying cool gadgets. Maybe I need to rub some “new car smell” on the >>>> Mikrotik routers or something. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So I guess if your proposed gizmo has a “new car smell” or “latest >>>> iPhone” aura to it, people might buy it. Just make sure that red light >>>> doesn’t have false detects, or it will just make people complain their >>>> Internet is down because the red light is on. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* David via Af <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 21, 2014 9:27 AM >>>> >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Network Monitoring in the 2010's >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yeah we put a little thought into ours on that behalf. >>>> The customer will have to go to the trouble of signing up for these >>>> alerts and it will only show alerts associated with their tower or CPE. >>>> Even any scheduled work being done on that site. >>>> Alerts for outages on their connection only is all that will be >>>> displayed. >>>> We are not doing this for anyone on our FSK network only the 450 net. >>>> We already have the Portal for billing. >>>> >>>> On 11/20/2014 11:47 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: >>>> >>>> *An app for my phone? Yuck >>>> >>>> *Something that pushes to cutomers letting them know we're having >>>> issues? Yuck >>>> >>>> *Something that let's the customer verify their particular service is >>>> good/not? That'd be great! >>>> >>>> *Web portal for billing, easy peasy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Why a node fails probably won't be detectable by a machine - in some >>>> cases it's difficult for a person to narrow it down (radio, connectors, >>>> cables, ethernet, surge, etc) but I'd like to see ideas on this of course. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I use/suggest an outgoing message. IF the customer is having issues >>>> and they do call us, they hear we're having issues and hang up. This means >>>> that we're not telling 100 people there are issues when 25 are effecting >>>> ending up with 75 calls next month saying we owe them a credit when they >>>> had nothing to do with an outage. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> What I really want is an integrated system that isn't stuck in the 90's. >>>> >>>> I want the customer to have an app on their phone that tells them when >>>> their network is having issues and why. >>>> I want it to also remind them to pay their bill and provide a lazy/easy >>>> way to do that. >>>> >>>> I want that same system to have an engineer app that tells us when >>>> nodes fail and why. >>>> >>>> So if a node goes down and it's important, it should show up on my >>>> phone and I can take action. >>>> One of those actions would be to message to outage impacted customers >>>> the ETA to fix etc. >>>> >>>> Emails from Cacti don't count. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that >>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you >>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not >>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >
