There’s some kind of disconnect when something that needs 25 Mbps per device is 
being marketed as mainstream, and the FCC just decided that 10x1 is the minimum 
Internet speed for CAF funding.  Unless we’re finally willing to admit that 4K 
televisions and 25M live streaming are a luxury and you need to either live in 
a major metro area with fiber or cable, or spend a lot for your Internet 
connection, or be satisfied with mere FHD instead of UHD.  It’s great to drive 
bandwidth consumption, as long as people don’t expect it for free or minimal 
premium.

It’s kind of a perception thing.  UHD looks maybe 2 or 3 times as good as SD, 
but uses 15 times the bandwidth.  So people expect to pay a premium based on 
how good it looks, not how much bandwidth it consumes, in fact they don’t even 
want to pay that because they’re used to supersizing their fries and drink for 
an extra buck.  (note that fries and drinks have huge markups)

It will make a little more sense when physical media exist that can hold a 4K 
movie.  Doesn’t it seem strange that Netflix is just giddy that you have to 
live stream 4K because it is so huge it won’t fit on a disc?

It would sure be nice if people could adjust their expectations, and 
applications come out, so that you watch broadcast 4K either via cable or 
satellite, or else you download it overnight and watch it the next day.  Rather 
than click and live stream the on-demand content now.  I think this is a big 
opportunity for companies like DISH who control content and a set top box, to 
download content to the DVR at less than live stream speed overnight, for 
viewing the next day, it would give them an advantage over Netflix which can’t 
sell you anything that doesn’t fit through your pipe.  I mean come on, people, 
if you really have to watch a movie right now, would it kill you to watch it in 
1080p?

- no waiting
- amazing quality
- cheap
- available everywhere

pick 3.





From: Jerry Richardson via Af 
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 12:04 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

iMovix shot the Ryder Cup in UHD

 

It’s coming. I suspect we will see some further incremental improvements in 
CODECs but I see this as a good thing, nothing drives bandwidth capacity 
improvements like content J

 

 

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke via Af
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 9:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

 

How much content will really be shot in 4K?

All of the Red digital video cameras record in 4K, the newer ones in 4K 60fps. 
Red cameras are common in Vancouver even on low-budget movie productions these 
days.

 

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

  I think the other parameter is 120 Hz refresh, right?

   

  But remember all the complaining about Peter Jackson shooting in 48fps and 
making it impossible to “suspend disbelief”?

   

  And remember how TV shows had to rebuild their sets and talking heads needed 
more makeup and Botox and pimple cream for 1080p?  Are they going to freak out 
again for 4K/8K where dust particles will be visible on someone’s nose?

   

  And how much content will really, really be shot in 4K/8K and 120Hz?  Rather 
than upscaled and interpolated?

   

  They say a new generation of Blu-ray discs for 4K should be available in 
about a year.

   

   

  From: Jerry Richardson via Af 

  Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:31 AM

  To: [email protected] 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

   

  Yeah, LG wants to get in front with this…

   

  However for the record, what is being called 4k is really 2k or UHD. The 
marketing departments decided that they no longer wanted to follow tradition of 
counting horizontal lines. There are way more vertical lines, let’s count those!

   

  Bugs me to no end LOL

   

   

   

  From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af
  Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 9:03 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: [AFMUG] And some of you are whining about 4K

   

  
http://hothardware.com/news/we-dont-need-no-stinkin-4k-lg-says-theyre-bringing-the-8k-love

   

  Rory

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