Slow and easy...slow and easy...

Jaime Solorza
On Dec 12, 2014 11:43 AM, "That One Guy via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:

> madness we are a little better than the target after fine alignment. at
> one point we had the 4' side pinting to the ground abot 100 yards out ant
> it still had about a -80 on the bnc readout
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>   Yeah, it was so considerate of AT&T to leave that dish up there when
>> they sold off the site, only needed to be re-aimed about 2 degrees to go
>> where we wanted.  And they built a platform to stand on while aiming it,
>> that was awfully nice of them.  And they left the flexible waveguide down
>> to the shelter.  I’d really hate to think about hanging a new 12 ft dish
>> ourselves and running waveguide to it.  And it’s an Andrew parabolic, not
>> the old WE horns, so we don’t have to worry about water getting into the
>> waveguide and freezing.  It doesn’t even look like anyone has been using
>> the lightning bolt logo for target practice.  Life is good when someone
>> abandons nice stuff you can use.
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Hardy, Tim via Af <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 12, 2014 11:18 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths
>>
>>
>> HPBW for a 12 ft dish at 11.2 GHz is 0.5 degree.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof via Af
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 12, 2014 11:17 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths
>>
>>
>>
>> Nope, a 4 ft dish in 11 GHz should be pretty narrow, a few degrees and
>> you should be into a deep, deep null.  Take a look at the beamwidth or
>> pattern for your antenna.  It should be similar to an 8 ft dish in 5.x GHz.
>>
>>
>>
>> We once used an existing 12 ft dish for an 11 GHz link and I kept having
>> to tell the tower guy he was not going to be able to eyeball it.  The
>> beamwidth was something like 1 degree if I remember right.  He ketp getting
>> nada for signal until I made him slowly sweep the azimuth.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* That One Guy via Af <[email protected]>
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 12, 2014 9:50 AM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths
>>
>>
>>
>> Weve never gone above 2'
>>
>> we finished installing our 11ghz link yesterday and had the antennas
>> rough aligned, one side is 3' one side is 4'. I expected the tighter
>> patterns would make it harder to find the initial link but they actually
>> linked up right off the bat and it was right on the projected power levels.
>>
>> This is only 10 miles, so we have visual on the path.
>>
>> We did a  little rough alignment yesterday, and will do the fine
>> alignment today. when we we roughing it there was a good amount of travel
>> on the antenna (4') side we were on and only a couple db change. do larger
>> antennas on such a short path give you a little more leniency in alignment
>> or something? we will do full horizontal and vertical panning today to make
>> sure we arent in side lobes, just curious is there is more slop in this
>> scenario.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>
>
>
> --
> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>

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