Where are you looking at? 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

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From: "Paul Conlin via Af" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:42:20 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications 



We got a PCN in the next county from us for AT&T that included ALL of the 6, 11 
and 18 channels. Government installation. The 14 foot high barbed wired fences 
have signs saying FEMA. Yea, right “FEMA” nudge-nudge wink-wink. 

For fun I was trying to look up what is actually licensed there. Can anyone get 
the geo search working at the FCC ULS site? I can’t get it to find any links 
anywhere. What am I doing wrong? 
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchGeographic.jsp 

PC 
Blaze Broadband 





From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:51 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications 


I was floored a couple years ago when I got a PCN with 18 links at one of our 
POPs by Clearwire. It was a smattering of 6, 11, 18, and 23 GHz. 

None of it was ever built. 


-- bp <part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com> 
On 12/15/2014 5:16 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af wrote: 



The squatting by the HFT guys is really ticking me off at the moment. I need an 
additional link on a path and can’t find any working channels in 11Ghz. I’m 
going to have to replace the existing 11Ghz link with 2 18Ghz links instead of 
adding a polarization to the existing 11Ghz. It doubles the cost for a path 
that the HFT guys have been sitting on for at least 2 years. 



Mark 




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On Dec 15, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af < [email protected] > wrote: 






Maybe he’s assuming in a few years quantum entanglement or faster-then-light 
neutrinos will make them obsolete? 



I see more PCNs than physical links. Abusing the system to call dibs on towers 
and frequencies. Most of the PCNs I see are actually renewals, that way they 
can tie up the coordinated path without starting the construction deadline 
clock ticking. 










From: Jon Langeler via Af 

Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:53 PM 

To: [email protected] 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications 




What happens in a few years? 



-Jon 

Sent from my iPhone 


On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:11 PM, CARL PETERSON via Af < [email protected] > wrote: 
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I use them to make a KML of all the HFT links that are going to be sitting 
there on the towers doing nothing in a few years. 






On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Bill Prince via Af < [email protected] > wrote: 





We get them all the time too. I just scan them to see if they are in the same 
county as our stuff (and they usually are not). But I filter them all to a PCN 
folder so they aren't clogging up my inbox. 

You get it if (I think) you are within 150 miles on the same frequency with one 
of your licenses. 


-- bp <part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com> 
On 12/15/2014 9:57 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: 
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Sorry Tim...Liz and all the other frequency coordinators here. I know it is not 
your fault. 



You get a few licensed links up and pretty soon you are inundated with notices. 

The one time I complained about a link, nothing happened at all. 



So, as far as I am concerned, they are a welfare plan designed by the federal 
government to employ postal workers. 






From: Chuck McCown via Af 

Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:55 AM 

To: [email protected] 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications 






They go directly to the trash. 






From: That One Guy via Af 

Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:51 AM 

To: [email protected] 

Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications 




Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these things, 
some of which are a state away. 

What is the criteria for sending these things out? 

What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to see 
if it looks like it will cause issues? 

whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or the 
applicant frequency coordinator? 



-- 


All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- 
IBM maintenance manual, 1925 





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