You hit the nail on the head; the price of oil coupled with government
spending...budget deficit verses surplus.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2014/10/daily-chart-7

Chuck

On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

>   It’s also an economics lesson for any of us who think about starting a
> price war with the industry cost leader, like the cable companies.
>
> I keep hearing the Saudis need oil to be $100, but I don’t see why.  They
> just pump the stuff, the other guys are drilling and fracking.  They
> probably need it to be $100 to support their economy and lifestyle since
> they don’t produce anything but oil, but they are probably profitable at
> $10.
>
>
>  *From:* Mark Radabaugh via Af <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:04 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...
>
>  It's just a little geopolitical Christmas present.
>
> The old joke - what's the best price of oil for OPEC?   $100, $100, $100,
> $50, $100.
>
> When the price drops to $50 it kills all of the speculative drilling and
> investment in alternative energy, and then OPEC raises the price back and
> ensures they stay relevant.
>
> The low oil price also punishes a variety of political enemies - Russia,
> ISIS, Iran, and a couple of South American countries.
>
> The low price won't last, but it's nice for a while and plays into a
> number of political battles.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 12/24/14 10:58 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
>
> Wonder what the play is there.  How long will gas prices stay this low?
> And how low will they go?  Saudi Arabia is in the drivers seat for now.
> Russia and a few of the OPEC nations are getting it in the shorts.
>
> Someone will blink.  I'm betting that gas will turn around in 3-6 months.
>
> --
> bp
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>
>
> On 12/24/2014 7:11 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
>
>  Yep:
> http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/refined-products/rbob-gasoline.html
>
>  *From:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 8:10 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...
>
>   I wonder if you can purchase gasoline futures?
>
>  *From:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 7:59 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...
>
>
> Get a few 55 gallon drums.  That's what we did around 2006.
>
> Josh Luthman
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> On Dec 24, 2014 9:44 AM, "Chuck McCown via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>   I wish I had a 50,000 gallon tank and I wish that gas did not  have a
>> shelf life.
>>
>>  *From:* Jaime Solorza via Af <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:51 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...
>>
>>
>> Gas at 1.87 a gallon today
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Dec 23, 2014 4:20 PM, "Jaime Solorza via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> As long as they leave my shrubbery  alone.
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> On Dec 23, 2014 1:21 PM, "Chuck McCown via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   I think we still have a citadel or two, don’t we?
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Ken Hohhof via Af <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:12 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...
>>>>
>>>>   Well, North Korea threatened to blow up our “citadels” in
>>>> retaliation.
>>>>
>>>> “Tragedy is when I cut my finger.  Comedy is when you fall into an open
>>>> sewer and die.”
>>>> - Mel Brooks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Jaime Solorza via Af <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:48 PM
>>>> *To:* Animal Farm <[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Polemic movie.  I thought it was a comedy
>>>>
>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>> On Dec 23, 2014 12:34 PM, "Gino Villarini via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Yes, it is the top local newspaper
>>>>>
>>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>>> @gvillarini
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Legit news source?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From: *"Gino Villarini via Af" <[email protected]>
>>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:09:13 PM
>>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.elnuevodia.com/puertoricoestrenaralapolemicapeliculatheinterview-1915932.html
>>>>>
>>>>> News in spanish, but local chain to screen the Movie… who gots the
>>>>> cojo… now??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>>> President
>>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>>>> @aeronetpr
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>
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