For sure on Android. I never assume iOS can do anything you'd ever want to do, 
so I haven't tried. It can't even do e-mail attachments. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Ken Hohhof via Af" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:27:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support 




Can you go to the manufacturer download site, save the file to the phone, then 
go to the firmware update page in the router GUI, and browse to the file you 
saved earlier, just like on a PC? 




From: Josh Luthman via Af 
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:20 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support 


Phone can just use the web interface like a PC would. 





Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af < [email protected] > wrote: 





My current problem is I scanned my network and found about 45 customers with 
UPnP open to the Internet, I think they are mostly DLinks with some older 
Linksys thrown in. I sent a little note to each of them recommending they 
update the firmware and/or disable UPnP, then run the Rapid7 “Scan My Router 
Now” test. There is even a DLink video telling you how to update your firmware: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHnacMKb2ro 

I would venture a guess 99% of customers have never updated their router 
firmware. This is something IMHO they need to know how to do or pay someone to 
do, like changing the oil in your car. I think the only way Windows Update ever 
gets run is because the computer came with it configured for automatic updates. 

What’s scary is the trend toward people having only phones, tablets, game 
consoles, TVs, Rokus, etc. on their WiFi, no actual computers and certainly 
nothing with an Ethernet cable. How do you update the firmware on your router 
from a phone, if they want you to download the firmware to your computer and 
then upload it to the router? At least Netgear gives you buttons when you log 
into the router GUI to check for new firmware and to do the upgrade, without 
having to first store it on your computer. 

And as dependent as these remote support companies are on remote control 
software like Teamviewer and GoToSupport, how do they handle the customer with 
no computers? Do they remote into a phone or tablet? Even if that is possible, 
it’s got to be really clumsy to reprogram someone’s WiFi using a remote session 
to a WiFi device. 





From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af 
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 9:15 PM 


To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support 





thats why i love reverse DHCP based on MAC. Tell us you have a new router, 
check the bridge table on the SM and update the mac. Additionally, a lot of 
people NAT the sms. Early days we had trouble with that and i've just never 
liked it... 

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Philip Rankin via Af 
To: af 
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 4:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support 

The first thing the manufacturer does is tell the customer to hard reset their 
router. If you use pppoe like we do, then someone has to re-setup the pppoe 
information. You are FAR better off to simply handle your customer computer 
problems yourself and charge a lot for the work! IMHO! 


On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af < [email protected] > wrote: 

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That doesn't quite look like the answer. 

Maybe one approach is to push these people to call the manufacturer. I see that 
Linksys, Netgear, Belkin, DLink all have paid support after 30 days. Dell has 
paid support. Apple has Applecare. HP has SmartFriend which seems to cover a 
wide variety of problems and non HP computers, maybe that's where I should send 
them: 

https://h30617.www3.hp.com/HP/ subscription-services/index. asp 


-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Treat via Af 
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:40 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap computer phone support 

Is securitycoverage.com still relevant? DTNSpeednet used to push it. 

___________________________ 
Mangled by my iPhone. 
___________________________ 

Tyler Treat 
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. 

[email protected] 
___________________________ 



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On Dec 24, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af < [email protected] > wrote: 

Is there a service out there? For stuff that's clearly not our problem? 

I'm trying to take a firmer stance about not spending an hour on the phone 
walking someone through fixing their computer or router, because they are too 
lazy to Google it or use the manufacturer's website, or haven't a clue when it 
comes to computers. 

I give them the number for a computer shop, but often they say I can't pay $100 
to have someone fix my computer or router or printer or smart TV. My business 
is at the size where I'm not big enough to make computer repair a profit 
center, but if I keep doing this stuff for free, I'm going to have to hire 
someone to do it, and that's not a cost I can absorb. 

Is there a place maybe with call centers in India that will do this for less? I 
know the telcos offer this service for a monthly fee, and I assume they are 
outsourcing it. Note that I'm not talking about phone support for Internet 
problems. 

Oh, and kudos to Apple for fixing the NTP vulnerability without asking 
permission. I can't believe the media is portraying this in a negative light. 
I'm tired of people who don't keep their computers and routers and other 
devices updated. Do people drive their cars until the engine freezes up because 
they are too lazy or cheap or clueless to get the oil changed? I suppose some 
do. Maybe we need the government to come do all these things for us. 





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Philip J. Rankin 
Wireless Telecommunications Services 
PO Box 24 
Pittsburg, KS 66762 
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