I thought that too, but with a mailserver and PRTG server running Windows for 
many years, I really do zero tinkering.  Nada.  Not sure why you would tinker.  
My main complaint is that WIndows Update tends to need a restart which messes 
up PRTG graphs, while yum updates typically are hitless.

Also you have to rebuild the server when the Windows version goes EOL, but no 
different with Linux.

I think MRTG on Windows would probably be a bad choice though.


From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 12:55 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS

Linux takes a bit up front.  Windows it seems you can never be done tinkering 
around.


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On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Josh Baird <[email protected]> wrote:

  If you know Linux, it doesn't. 

  Windows takes too much time to fiddle with IMO (most of the time).

  Josh

  On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Jon Langeler <[email protected]> 
wrote:

    We use PRTG and Intermapper together. Using Linux takes way too much time 
to fiddle with IMO.

    -Jon

    Sent from my iPhone

    > On Jan 6, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > Speaking of NMS, is there a consensus as to what is the favorite?
    >
    > -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett
    > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:42 AM
    > To: [email protected]
    > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
    >
    > If you just need to know when the power goes out, get a Site Monitor for
    > $99.  It has two power inputs.  Connect input 1 to your battery backed
    > power, and input 2 to a wall wart on an A/C outlet.
    >
    > Monitor the voltage on the two power inputs in your NMS.  When input 2
    > has zero voltage, then the power is out.  Add a current shunt for $20
    > more and then you can measure your load and voltage, from there you can
    > estimate your expected run time.
    >
    > Probably not as easy as the APC management card.
    >
    >

    >> I'm at my end. I've been looking at this for a while now and it's 
obvious that no one makes an industrial APC UPS that works.
    >>
    >> We've tried the Alpha Cordex (DIN rail) and the ICT (19" rack) and 
neither one can do what a APC management card can. We just need it to provide 
24vDC to a load and when the AC power goes out, send an alert and let us 
monitor the system status via SNMP.
    >>
    >> Alpha:
    >> PROS: DIN rail mounted
    >> CONS: Web interface is IE only, SNMP requests are completely broken, 
have not tested SNMP traps, cost is about $700.
    >>
    >> ICT:
    >> PROS: It works well as a dumb power supply/charger with UPS 
functionality, web interface works in all browsers.
    >> CONS: SNMP is limited to about 6 values, all remote communication is 
lost when AC is removed, no battery monitoring at all other than the voltage 
for use with LV cutoff which is one of the values that is not available via 
SNMP. Also costs about $700
    >>
    >> I have to give it to Alpha at this point, at least their unit remains 
"intelligent" when AC power is removed. If they would fix their web interface 
and SNMP it would be perfect.
    >>
    >> So... Does anyone have a solution that works that isn't completely 
cobbled together? I need to know when we lose/regain AC power, that the battery 
is draining, what the battery voltage is so that I know when it's about to cut 
off, it needs a LV cut off to protect the batteries, and all this information 
needs to be available via SNMP and web. Am I asking for too much or does 
something of this nature exist outside of TrippLite and APC?
    >


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