Magnum mms1200, take a look

On January 6, 2015 11:08:38 AM AKST, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>Another option is this:
>http://www.tripplite.com/line-interactive-sine-wave-ups-system-.75kva-snmp-tower-usb-rs232-extended-runtime-100v-110v-120v~SMART750XLA/
>
>I’ve had one at a tower site for a couple years with no problems.  It
>has a red/black PowerPole for external batteries if you want extended
>runtime.  The web mgmt card is a little funky and the fan runs all the
>time, but otherwise it seems fine.  Some people have stated it will
>require human intervention if you run the batteries all the way down
>but I have not tested if this is true.  It does if I remember correctly
>have a dual load bank feature that could be useful for remotely or
>automatically shedding less critical loads.
>
>However Gino is wanting to run DC loads directly off the batteries. 
>I’m not sure any AC UPS is intended for that.
>
>
>From: Gino Villarini 
>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:39 PM
>To: mailto:[email protected] 
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
>
>Big sites ( 500 watts or more) we go Emerson.
>
>Great units! Mark pointed us that way...
>
>Smaller sites go APC,  our situation is that many remote sites have
>long power outages... 3-4 days sometimes
>
>Gino A. Villarini 
>@gvillarini
>
>
>
>On Jan 6, 2015, at 3:21 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>Have you looked at Eltek and Emerson?  Although Eltek seems to be
>oriented around –24 or –48, and not so good for +24.  Not familiar with
>Emerson, Mark Radabaugh has posted they use them.
>
>I have an Eltek Micropack –48V system and the web and SNMP capability
>is excellent.  I did have one rectifier module fail, but it was pretty
>painless given they are N+1 redundant.
>
>
>  From: Gino Villarini 
>  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:15 PM
>  To: mailto:[email protected] 
>  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
>
>The problem with xl units it's the charger ... It has low amperage (5-8
>amps dep model) and don't maintain well big banks
>
>The idea is to have the xl with internal batt and have a big bank
>connected to the external batt connector
>
>This bank will be isolated from the apc during AC operation.  The bank
>will have a good charger and will run 24 dc loads(still under
>consideration)
>
>  AC fails, the apc ups will see the big bank for extended runtimes 
>
>  Gino A. Villarini 
>  @gvillarini
>
>
>
>  On Jan 6, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Josh Baird <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>    Hmm, give us details when you get them regarding the XL! 
>
>    Josh
>
>On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>      Chris
>
>Thanks for this compressive evaluation.  We bought 2 Alpha/Cordex unit
>for testing.  We are in a similar spot, looking for a web managed power
>system in 24 and 48 vdc.
>
>      You saved us the expense of buying an ICT unit.
>
>That being said, we are looking into using a slightly modified apc xl
>unit to run 24 dc direct from the UPS DC rail
>
>
>      Gino A. Villarini
>      @gvillarini
>
>
>
>
>> On Jan 6, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Christopher Tyler
><[email protected]> wrote:
>      >
>> I'm at my end. I've been looking at this for a while now and it's
>obvious that no one makes an industrial APC UPS that works.
>      >
>> We've tried the Alpha Cordex (DIN rail) and the ICT (19" rack) and
>neither one can do what a APC management card can. We just need it to
>provide 24vDC to a load and when the AC power goes out, send an alert
>and let us monitor the system status via SNMP.
>      >
>      > Alpha:
>      > PROS: DIN rail mounted
>> CONS: Web interface is IE only, SNMP requests are completely broken,
>have not tested SNMP traps, cost is about $700.
>      >
>      > ICT:
>> PROS: It works well as a dumb power supply/charger with UPS
>functionality, web interface works in all browsers.
>> CONS: SNMP is limited to about 6 values, all remote communication is
>lost when AC is removed, no battery monitoring at all other than the
>voltage for use with LV cutoff which is one of the values that is not
>available via SNMP. Also costs about $700
>      >
>> I have to give it to Alpha at this point, at least their unit remains
>"intelligent" when AC power is removed. If they would fix their web
>interface and SNMP it would be perfect.
>      >
>> So... Does anyone have a solution that works that isn't completely
>cobbled together? I need to know when we lose/regain AC power, that the
>battery is draining, what the battery voltage is so that I know when
>it's about to cut off, it needs a LV cut off to protect the batteries,
>and all this information needs to be available via SNMP and web. Am I
>asking for too much or does something of this nature exist outside of
>TrippLite and APC?
>      >
>      > --
>      > Christopher Tyler
>      > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
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>      >

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