I'm having the same problem with RocketAC. I'm trying to plan a link and
can't even figure how much capacity I can get at that distance with the
existing noise floor. It makes it hard to select the right tool for the job
without all the info.

-Ty

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

> Matt, that doesn't really help.
>
> In many areas, my noise/interference/whatever is -75. If I knew how much
> margin was required per modulation, I could figure out how much signal I
> need for that speed.
>
> I can't do that with your published numbers.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Matt Hardy <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 12:42:52 -0600 (CST)
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Af5
>
> Hi Mike,
> The numbers in our datasheet do convey the SNR (which assumes AWGN for
> noise value); this is pretty standard among all our datasheets.
> The noise floor value varies based on channel BW, so a rough estimate for
> noise floor would be (50MHz=-97dBm, 40=-98dBm, 30=-99dBm, 20=-101dBm,
> 10=-104dBm).
>
> As far as transmit power / modulation, all modulations up to 64QAM can run
> at full transmit power. 256QAM is ~2dB lower, and 1024QAM is something like
> 4dB lower (it depends on other external factors).
>
> All of this and more is already provided with the integrated link
> configuration tool, including channel bandwidth, duplex frequency spacing,
> TX power and a bunch of other stuff. It's recommended to use this tool to
> configure links because of all of the additional factors.
>
> But if you need to run a simple link calc to estimate a link's performance
> at certain distance, you should have enough info.
>
> Hope that helps...
>
> -Matt
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Not at all, Matt. Those are receive sensitivities.
> >
> >
> > The left side of this picture is needed for the airFibers. You publish
> the
> > right side only.
> >
> >
> > This information is also not available for the airFibers.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From: *"Matt Hardy" <[email protected]>
> > *To: *[email protected]
> > *Sent: *Friday, January 9, 2015 5:34:43 PM
> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Af5
> >
> > This?
> > [image: Inline image 1]
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hard to tell because they won't publish their Tx and SNR requirements.
> >> I'd just make educated guesses and plug it into a path calc.
> >>
> >> BTW: Ben, Matt... where are those numbers?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----
> >> Mike Hammett
> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >> http://www.ics-il.com
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From: *"Craig House" <[email protected]>
> >> *To: *[email protected]
> >> *Sent: *Thursday, January 8, 2015 3:24:58 PM
> >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Af5
> >>
> >> I have used some AF 24 hours but no AF5 for backhaul yet what is the max
> >> distance people are seeing for the AF 5 at full modulation
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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