So is there something similar to the Friis formula you can lay on us that takes 
thermal and interference into account and gives minimum RX levels needed?

From: Chuck Macenski 
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 8:25 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Af5

The clean noise floor number is the thermal noise floor...

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Chuck Macenski <[email protected]> wrote:

  Hi, 


  I should learn to sleep at night and email during the day. The tl;dr should 
have read: Sensitivity for a Modulation Rate at a given bandwidth (from the 
spec sheet) minus the clean noise floor for that bandwidth (see below) equals 
the signal needed over the actual noise floor for a given modulation.

  A rough estimate for the clean noise floor would be (50MHz=-97dBm, 40=-98dBm, 
30=-99dBm, 20=-101dBm, 10=-104dBm).



  Chuck

  On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

    Noodling around with Chucks info:

    Noise floor = –80
    Sensitivity = –82
    -80 – (-82) = 2 dB
    RX signal required –80 + 2 = –78 dBm

    Noise floor = –40
    Sensitivity = –82
    -40 – (-82) =42 dB
    -40 + 42 = +2dBm  (Not sure I want to stand in front of the transmitter)

    Some simple algebra:

    Required RX signal =Noise floor + (Noise Floor – Sensitivity)

    - simplifying -

    RX signal = (2 * Noise floor )-Sensitivity

    So, every dB of  noise floor == 2dB of RX signal.  

    Have I got this right Chuck?

    From: Chuck Macenski 
    Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 11:25 PM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Af5


    tl;dr...the natural noise floor for the band minus the sensitivity of that 
band for a given modulation equals the signal needed over the noise floor for a 
given modulation.


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