Do UBNT radios support .1Q?

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:

> If we VLAN traffic to each AP already how would we do a management VLAN?
> Would we have to make every AP port a trunk port (pruned, of course), and
> then let the radio do the tagging and untagging?
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Brett A Mansfield <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> It's possible there is a bug in the software then. All of my NATd radios
>> on 5.5.9 and older I can only access the management on the management VLAN,
>> but all of the ones running 5.5.10 I can access it on both the management
>> VLAN and untagged interfaces.
>>
>> Though there may be something in the configuration causing it. I'm double
>> checking. It clearly shows management is set to the tagged vlan. Looks like
>> the bridge is missing in the config though. It must have wiped it out when
>> NAT was put in place.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Jesus Christ no.
>> No.
>>
>> SSH, web, SNMP, etc only respond on whatever the management interface is.
>> If it's left default, it responds on what's assigned. If you vlan it off,
>> it only responds on that vlan. Other untagged traffic goes through as
>> bridged or routed depending on what you have configured.
>>
>> On January 20, 2015 10:12:37 AM AKST, Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> NATting in the radio just eliminates so many issues.  It solved lots of
>>> issues for us when we did it with Canopy.  It was easy because the
>>> management/NAT are always separated in Canopy.  It just became part of our
>>> standard practice.
>>>
>>> So if we're doing NAT on the CPE, management traffic will go to the
>>> public interface?  That seems broken.  What defines "management" traffic
>>> besides SSH/WWW ports?
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/20/2015 11:07 AM, Brett A Mansfield wrote:
>>>
>>> You'll need to set up a dhcp server for that vlan or manually assign it.
>>>
>>>  Even with NAT on the CPE the management interface will work the same.
>>> But when doing NAT you'll be able to access the radio from its public
>>> address as well. There really is no reason to NAT at the radio with VLANs.
>>>
>>>  Any reason you'd do NAT at the radio?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>   If you're bridging, where does the management VLAN get it's IP
>>> address?
>>>
>>> Likewise (or almost likewise), if we're NATting in the CPE, is there a
>>> place to assign the VLAN interface a different IP address?
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/20/2015 10:33 AM, Brett A Mansfield wrote:
>>>
>>> UBNT has a good video on this very thing. �If done right, all ssh
>>> traffic would be passed through the radio to the customers router on the
>>> public side and the management side will only be accessible internally.
>>>
>>>  Here is a link to their video on the VLAN setup for management.
>>>
>>> http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-Frequently-Asked/airMAX-VLAN-management/ta-p/472529
>>>
>>>  Thank you,
>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Jan 20, 2015, at 11:18 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Management services only respond on the management vlan...
>>>
>>> On January 20, 2015 9:17:24 AM AKST, Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK.� Great.� We can put another IP on a management IP on the
>>>> VLAN.� How does that block the SSH logins?
>>>>
>>>> Can you specify that SSH only goes through the management VLAN?
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/20/2015 10:14 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It creates another interface, a tagged one. You specify which interface
>>>> is the management interface. Don't route it out of your network.
>>>>
>>>> On January 20, 2015 9:13:06 AM AKST, Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> My understanding of the UBNT VLAN is that it's all one VLAN? How do
>>>>> you split management/sub traffic?
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/20/2015 10:05 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Management. VLAN.
>>>>>
>>>>> On January 20, 2015 8:51:22 AM AKST, Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not the AP side, but the client side. We have traditionally NATted all
>>>>>> residential subs on Canopy, and were trying to do the same with UBNT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With Canopy it's easy, because the NATted TCP stack just passes through,
>>>>>> and if SSH ports are open, it goes to the sub's router (no impact on the
>>>>>> SM).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not so with UBNT, as the public IP for NAT is also the IP for the CPE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just wondering if anyone else has tried the CPE firewall to prevent
>>>>>> brute-force SSH logins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suppose I could cobble together something on the POP router, but
>>>>>> looking for options.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/20/2015 9:37 AM, Peter Kranz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Generally a bad idea to use that firewall (at least on the access 
>>>>>>> point side) as it supposedly cuts into your PPS capacity on the
>>>>>>> radio.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Peter Kranz
>>>>>>>  Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
>>>>>>>  www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
>>>>>>>  Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>>>>>>  Mobile: 510-207-0000
>>>>>>>  [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>  From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] On 
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bill Prince
>>>>>>>  Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 1:47 PM
>>>>>>>  To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT firewall
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Nobody actually using the UBNT firewall?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  bp
>>>>>>>  <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On 1/14/2015 11:25 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  We notice that any time we use NAT on UBNT we get a lot of login
>>>>>>>>  attempts via SSH.  Are any of you using the firewall built in? It's
>>>>>>>>  not clear from the GUI interface whether this affects input or
>>>>>>>>  forwarding, or both.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  What I'd like to do is block any
>>>>>>>> SSH logins that are not in one of our
>>>>>>>>  subnets, but I'm afraid if I turn it on, it will affect forwarded
>>>>>>>>  traffic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Examples?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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