I found through much wasted time that guyed poles are the worst possible idea in multiple ways (time to setup/maintain, maintainability, etc) other than short-term cost...
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Jay Weekley <[email protected]> wrote: > We do poles but not guyed. You are right. Guyed poles can be very time > consuming. Especially if you have to anchor the guys on the house. > > CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > >> i think there is more to it. the safety of our installers...who put the >> tower up....if the tower is 50 years old and in bad shape....i think we >> have even dropped pole installs due to their complexity. we have to >> support what is put up too and it can be time consuming. i guess we can >> discuss all of this over dinner next week :) >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2015 3:21 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps >> >> So you disagree when your own high number of rejections show you >> should be doing it? >> >> The advantage is that it's the customer paying for the height that >> they need to get service, not you (mostly). >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------ >> *From: *"CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *Sender: *"Af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *Date: *Sat, 31 Jan 2015 19:52:42 +0000 >> *To: *<[email protected]> >> *ReplyTo: *[email protected] >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps >> >> i disagree. we're over 600 customers now. very few have towers. >> but we have a lot of rejections too due to weak signals. talk to >> other wisp companies at wispa - the solution is more towers. >> well, too many towers and that gets expensive... >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Colin Stanners <mailto:[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:19 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps >> >> Eh? When you are in a highly-treed area, you need to do towers >> or be quick to send customers to a company that does. There's >> no other easy way to get NLOS. >> >> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:53 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> well, we don't do towers by default. in fact, i think >> we've had six customers or so who ever wanted towers and >> usually we told them to put their own up. I'm not sure to >> be honest, probably need to pull some work orders and find >> out why. I mean, some of those are in very close proximity! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:50 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps >> >> That's a quite high percentage of failures. Why? Trees >> and those customers didn't want to pay you to put up a >> residential tower? >> ------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------ >> *From: *"CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *Sender: *"Af" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *Date: *Sat, 31 Jan 2015 18:45:56 +0000 >> *To: *<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *ReplyTo: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps >> >> and this is REALLY annoying. Two water tanks, very >> close. i think 3 miles apart. >> green dots = installation successes >> yellow dots = FAILURES >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:22 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps >> >> You can offer it right now in 2.4, 3.65 or 5.8, >> the customers just need to pay the money for it >> and to cut trees and/or buy a big tower. A few >> people are, the hard part is finding them... >> ------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------ >> *From: *"CBB - Jay Fuller" >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *Sender: *"Af" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *Date: *Sat, 31 Jan 2015 18:17:46 +0000 >> *To: *<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *ReplyTo: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps >> >> me thinks if the FCC gave me 100 mhz from, oh, i >> don't know, 600 to 700 mhz, i could offer 25/3. >> Easily. >> Give me what I want FCC! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Jeremy <mailto:[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 9:52 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps >> >> How many WISPs out there offer 25x3? What do >> you charge for it? Are there bandwidth limits >> or is it unlimited? I'm trying to understand >> how we could reliably provide this service >> without putting 5-10 customers per AP. >> >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Travis >> Johnson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> Minimum definition of "broadband" is now >> 25Mbps down and 3Mbps up. My question is, >> if you say "up to", does that qualify? ;) >> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/ >> 2015/01/29/fcc_sextuples_broadband_speed/ >> >> Travis >> >> >> >> >
