Are you saying Sam’s club sells AGMs?

From: Jeremy 
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 8:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bateries

In a car battery type form-factor, you can't beat Sam's club.  The 'Energizer' 
AGM are actually rebranded Johnson Controls batteries (the maker of Optima).  I 
haven't seen an equal battery of that size anywhere for the prices that they 
sell them for.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:27 PM, That One Guy <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

  We have gotten pretty lucky on our batteries, we average 5-8 years at most 
sites, we are in central illinois. Last year destroyed a majority of our 
batteries, and the expanding problem destroyed alot of our APCs, Its time to 
replace our aged APCs anyway since all we can get are overstoc or used 
management cards for the models we have. the old 750xl were the perfect 
efficient solution for our sites, but they changed the form factor on those to 
not be usable, the 1000xl still has the desktop form factor but are inefficient 
for our purpose. 

  The way I look at it is if I can find a good generic external battery 
solution for our current APC runtime need, I will more easily be able to 
migrate to a different solution should one present that does what APC does at a 
similar cost if we arent locked into the APC packs. We also have three of the 
huge external packs (dont know the part number) that arent holding charge 
anymore that I would prefer to replace with a generic array. 

  As much as I hate to be brand locked, APC makes a solid product at a good 
price

  On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 7:19 PM, That One Guy <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

    I have to assume maintenance on batteries will not be done since i have to 
fight tooth an nail to get time alloted for maintenance on sites

    On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:22 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:

      Are you positive agm outlasts flooded cell's, if proper maintenance is 
done?

      On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

        You want AGM batteries.  They generally last longer, and are 
maintenance free (no water required).  They can also handle deeper discharge 
cycles than everything except lithium.

        I recently had to get some batteries ASAP, and found what I needed at a 
local Interstate battery store.  We will see how long they last.  We've gotten 
as much as 8 years on our Concorde SunXtenders (all AGM).


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 2/9/2015 9:57 AM, That One Guy wrote:

          I know this horse is about as abused as a woman that doesnt listen 
well, but Im looking for a brand/model number of battery that would be god for 
sites, primarily in the winter but some heat in the summer that we can replace 
the APC external packs with. 

          Id like to source them locally like NAPA, Autozone, etc rather than 
order them if possible.

          What exactly am I looking for in a battery. Most likely the sites 
that these would go to are sites we would put a generator on, so its not likely 
they would be depleted, but is a rare possibility. Mainly we are looking to get 
a longer window to get a generator to the site and a longer run if the 
generator fails or runs out of fuel.

          When running a battery bank is it recomended to buy all the batteries 
at the same time and replace them at the same time?


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          All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that 
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you 
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use 
a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925








    -- 

    All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the 
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't 
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a 
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925





  -- 

  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the 
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't 
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a 
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

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