Looking at the Sam's Club website, it looks like they only have Duracell
AGM batteries now, which I'm not sure who makes... but anyway, they have a
105AH group 31 for about $180 - that seems like a pretty good way to go.

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:

> The 'energizer' batteries at Sam's Club are actually these:
> http://www.johnsoncontrols.com/content/us/en/products/power-solutions/products/lead-acid/absorbent-glass-mat/heavy-duty-truck.html
>
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, they sell Optima Blue and Yellow and also Johnson Controls AGM
>> batteries.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 7:43 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>   Are you saying Sam’s club sells AGMs?
>>>
>>>  *From:* Jeremy <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 09, 2015 8:28 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Bateries
>>>
>>>  In a car battery type form-factor, you can't beat Sam's club.  The
>>> 'Energizer' AGM are actually rebranded Johnson Controls batteries (the
>>> maker of Optima).  I haven't seen an equal battery of that size anywhere
>>> for the prices that they sell them for.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:27 PM, That One Guy <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We have gotten pretty lucky on our batteries, we average 5-8 years at
>>>> most sites, we are in central illinois. Last year destroyed a majority of
>>>> our batteries, and the expanding problem destroyed alot of our APCs, Its
>>>> time to replace our aged APCs anyway since all we can get are overstoc or
>>>> used management cards for the models we have. the old 750xl were the
>>>> perfect efficient solution for our sites, but they changed the form factor
>>>> on those to not be usable, the 1000xl still has the desktop form factor but
>>>> are inefficient for our purpose.
>>>>
>>>> The way I look at it is if I can find a good generic external battery
>>>> solution for our current APC runtime need, I will more easily be able to
>>>> migrate to a different solution should one present that does what APC does
>>>> at a similar cost if we arent locked into the APC packs. We also have three
>>>> of the huge external packs (dont know the part number) that arent holding
>>>> charge anymore that I would prefer to replace with a generic array.
>>>>
>>>> As much as I hate to be brand locked, APC makes a solid product at a
>>>> good price
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 7:19 PM, That One Guy <[email protected]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have to assume maintenance on batteries will not be done since i
>>>>> have to fight tooth an nail to get time alloted for maintenance on sites
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:22 PM, TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you positive agm outlasts flooded cell's, if proper maintenance
>>>>>> is done?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  You want AGM batteries.  They generally last longer, and are
>>>>>>> maintenance free (no water required).  They can also handle deeper
>>>>>>> discharge cycles than everything except lithium.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I recently had to get some batteries ASAP, and found what I needed
>>>>>>> at a local Interstate battery store.  We will see how long they last.
>>>>>>> We've gotten as much as 8 years on our Concorde SunXtenders (all AGM).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/9/2015 9:57 AM, That One Guy wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know this horse is about as abused as a woman that doesnt listen
>>>>>>> well, but Im looking for a brand/model number of battery that would be 
>>>>>>> god
>>>>>>> for sites, primarily in the winter but some heat in the summer that we 
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> replace the APC external packs with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Id like to source them locally like NAPA, Autozone, etc rather than
>>>>>>> order them if possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What exactly am I looking for in a battery. Most likely the sites
>>>>>>> that these would go to are sites we would put a generator on, so its not
>>>>>>> likely they would be depleted, but is a rare possibility. Mainly we are
>>>>>>> looking to get a longer window to get a generator to the site and a 
>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>> run if the generator fails or runs out of fuel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When running a battery bank is it recomended to buy all the
>>>>>>> batteries at the same time and replace them at the same time?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
>>>>>>> that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. 
>>>>>>> Therefore, if
>>>>>>> you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
>>>>>>> means, do
>>>>>>> not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
>>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do 
>>>>> not
>>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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