The couple times we've had some contention, it's been HFT guys, but yeah, they 
haven't made things any easier. At least HFT guys spend the money for bigger 
dishes. The cell guys use dishes two sizes too small, IMHO. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 11:40:51 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 - 5 mile links 




No doubt Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile have made it harder over the past couple 
years with their 4G upgrades. Just like WISPs, the average distance between 
towers makes 11 GHz the go-to band. 





From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 11:27 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 - 5 mile links 


I'm not saying it's not available, but it's more likely than not available. 
I've only had luck getting 2x 11 GHz links anywhere from a N-S link in western 
Kane County to links over in Will County and the whole area between. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 11:25:05 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 - 5 mile links 




Define “here”. Aurora may be difficult, but not DeKalb. Also depends on 
direction, height, and beamwidth. Earth curvature is your friend. I have 6 
links in 11 GHz and have never had a problem with frequency coordination. 

It is frustrating though when you see a PCN from a carrier or utility for an 11 
GHz link that is only 1 or 2 miles. 





From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 11:13 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 - 5 mile links 


I assume 11 GHz doesn't exist around here. ;-) 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 11:09:35 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 - 5 mile links 




In that distance range 11, 18 and 23 GHz would all be candidates. Depending on 
frequency coordination, antenna size constraints, and desire to use common 
equipment across your network. 

23 GHz licensed is allowed higher EIRP than 24 GHz UL and will go farther, so 
at 2 miles I would definitely consider it. 

But like someone said, run the numbers. And assume historical rain data may be 
optimistic, unless you are a climate change denier. We seem to have several 100 
year storms per year now. 





From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 11:03 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 - 5 mile links 


Indeed. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 10:58:22 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 - 5 mile links 


Near Chicago? 





Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: 




Are we looking at 18 GHz for good uptime and high data rates at that distance? 




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