It is backwards. When we moved around 15 years ago we couldn’t get phone 
service because no one could give us our E911 address. Apparently the only 
person in the county that could tell us what our address was went on a two 
month long vacation.

That should tell you the level of professionalism we’re dealing with here.



From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info

You're referring to geolocating someone? You can likely thank your local 
counties for having backwards addressing systems if they have an addressing 
system at all.

I don't know how anything but WISPMon does it, but you punch in the address, 
but then can manually relocate the location. You'd need to do that for tracking 
your customers in pretty much any other fashion.




-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





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From: "Glen Waldrop" <gwl...@cngwireless.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info


I know this wasn’t directed at me, but the USGS data given to Google, Yahoo, 
etc, is wrong for a huge portion of my coverage area if not all of it.

I’m not sure if that is the case elsewhere, but in west central Alabama using 
GPS or Google maps is a joke.

I visually find the home on Google maps and then look at the link on Terrain 
Nav Pro.




From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info

Your billing system doesn't know where all of your towers are, what they are, 
etc.? It doesn't have customer qualification capabilities?




-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





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From: "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 12:27:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info

Why would you use your billing system to report your coverage area to the FCC?  
Surely you don't have customers at every possible location that you can provide 
service to?!?! 

We use towercoverage.com because it reports all the locations that we can 
provide service to.

2 cents

-Sean


On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Philip Rankin <wireless...@gmail.com> wrote:

  The hardest part for the Fixed Broadband Deployment portion of the filing is 
understanding what the FCC wants and then manipulating the data to get it into 
the format the Commission requires after you find where to find the Census 
information.  (The Census information by state is all on 
http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/census-blocks-state)  You just have to massage 
it to make it fit. 

  I use Platypus and Tucows has a really nice easy button push to generate the 
Fixed Broadband Subscription information.  The subscription can be done 
manually if you can find the census maps.

  On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net> wrote:

    
http://data.fcc.gov/api/block/find?latitude=32.515986&longitude=87.834804&showall=true

    Still get an error, xml error rather than 404 this time.

    Why can't I figure this crap out?

    Epically frustrating.


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Josh Luthman 
      To: af@afmug.com 
      Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:21 AM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info

      Long and lat should be decimal for one

      Josh Luthman
      Office: 937-552-2340
      Direct: 937-552-2343
      1100 Wayne St
      Suite 1337
      Troy, OH 45373

      On Feb 26, 2015 11:12 AM, "Glen Waldrop" <gwl...@cngwireless.net> wrote:

        What am I doing wrong?

        
http://data.fcc.gov/api/block/2010/find?latitude=32%C2%B030%2757.55%22N&longitude=87%C2%B050%275.30%22W&showall=true
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Josh Luthman 
          To: af@afmug.com 
          Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:05 AM
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 tract/block info

          Use the FCC API.  You send coordinates and get tracts.

          Josh Luthman
          Office: 937-552-2340
          Direct: 937-552-2343
          1100 Wayne St
          Suite 1337
          Troy, OH 45373

          On Feb 26, 2015 11:03 AM, "Glen Waldrop" <gwl...@cngwireless.net> 
wrote:

            I've been spinning my wheels for days now, 477 help line is typical 
government/Microsoft answer, technically correct, practically useless.

            How do I get the block/tract info? I've got maps, I've got 
programs, been through the 477 paperwork of the past, none of the numbers I get 
add up to 15 digits.

            Getting a little irritated at this point.

            Thanks guys.






  -- 

  Philip J. Rankin 
  Wireless Telecommunications Services
  PO Box 24
  Pittsburg, KS  66762

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